"Controversial Fight #2": Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales I.

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  1. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Round 1: Barrera 10-9 Morales
    Round 2: Barrera 10-9 Morales
    Round 3: Barrera 10-9 Morales
    Round 4: Barrera 9-10 Morales
    Round 5: Barrera 9-10 Morales
    Round 6: Barrera 9-10 Morales
    Round 7: Barrera 9-10 Morales
    Round 8: Barrera 10-9 Morales
    Round 9: Barrera 10-9 Morales
    Round 10: Barrera 9-10 Morales
    Round 11: Barrera 10-9 Morales
    Round 12: Barrera 10-8 Morales

    Final Score: Barrera 115-112 Morales

    This is one of the greatest fights of all time no doubt. It has pretty much been my favourite fight for aslong as I can remember (expect for a brief period where Carbajal vs Gonzalez I was). I'm no quite sure just how many times I've watched this fight but its got to be well into double figures. Its just that ****ing good. Barrera was coming into this fight with two losses to Junior Jones on his record and a 12 round war and stoppage of Jones conquer Kennedy McKinney. Morales on the other hand was undefeated and had come into the bout with a vicious stoppage of Junior Jones, and solid wins over the likes of an ageing Zaragoza and of 92 Olympian Wayne McCullough. Both men are personal favourites of mine, and I regularly struggle to decide who I like more.

    What separates this fight for me from the likes of Castillo-Corrales and Gatti-Ward is rather than just brutality, what you have on show is a display of incredible highly tuned technical skills being thrown out of the window at times for a good dose of skull thumping. Morales was the slightly younger fighter but both men where clearly in their primes and where certainly experienced in their craft. Barrera started off the stronger, with his first action of the fight being a three punch combination of a jab, straight right, left uppercut. That sort of sets the standard of what was about to transpire. For the first few rounds you have the more fluid fighter in Barrera charging ahead working well on both the inside and outside. On the inside he was working well with that beautiful left hand he has, working it as a left hook to the body or a left uppercut to the body and head, shot flowing into the next. On the outside he was working well being a high guard parrying the jab of Morales and only once or twice being overwhelmed by Morales's own combinations which failed to show the same sort of effectiveness as Barrera's. For what its worth while I don't think Barrera had quite reached his defensive peak I do think he displayed the clearly better defence throughout, although he allowed his high guard to be broken through multiple time by Morales's vicious right uppercut on the inside.

    The real swing in momentum for me came in the fourth where I thought Morales started to bully the action on the inside and keep Barrera guessing on when he could inside with his footwork. I've never been a massive fan of Morales's footwork in the same style I have as say...Lopez's, but during rounds 4 and 5 I thought he put on a masterclass here and worked his way in to really bully these rounds off Barrera. While Morales really put on quite the show in middle four rounds I scored for him, and while Barrera was working to the body nicely at times and managing to hit Morales big, I felt he couldn't match Morales's activity and at times was just allowing his guard to be broken through by Morales's right uppercut.

    The real deciding rounds in this fight for me and for everybody else I'm guessing are those insane championship rounds. After 7/8 rounds of relentless beating on each other, both men somehow turn it up a gear and manage to weather the tsunami of pain they throw at each other. As for these rounds what can I say? They're pretty close aside from round 12 and maybe round 10, but Barrera just works through them with that sickening left hand he possesses. Both men get cut and both men get tagged with megashots, yet it seems rather ironic that after a display of nifty footwork and being hit by titanic shots, Morales goes down due to his own sloppy footwork and rather light shot. I'm not quite sure how I sum up how both men do as far as technically go in these rounds, other than with the words, holy ****.

    The final scores are read out in favour of Morales via split decision and while all scores all close besides those of Dalby Shirley (who scores it like I do) I fail to see how this can go in favour of Morallah. He certainly showed balls out there in the face of a fluid combination puncher, with a dynamite left hand on a warpath, but that doesn't win fights, what wins fights is fluid combination punches and having a dynamite left hand. Both men will go on to rematch a division above and I shall talk of that another time.

    Thoughts?

    (tl;dr I scored the fight for Barrera).
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    The greatest fight I have personally ever seen. Yes, it was brutal, but the fight was still contested at an incredibly high skill level. I usually score the fight in favour of Marco Antonio Barrera, but by no means was the decision a robbery. Morales won his rounds and got his work done almost purely on work rate. He was throwing more punches more consistantly, whereas Barrera was landing with the showier shots. Rounds 1 and 9 in particular could have been scored either way.

    My last scorecard was something like this.

    Barrera - 2, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12
    Morales - 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10

    People really need to mute the commentators and rewatch the opening round. I must be the only one who scores that in favour of Morales. The last minute is all Erik. I think people expected Marco to lose and were excited to see him go out there and take the fight to the younger man, but he didn't win that round in my opinion.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't have my RBR, but I remember having it 115-112 for Barrera.
     
  4. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Between this and the 2nd fight everything evened itself out.
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    barrera vs morales 1
    1. 10-9
    2. 10-9
    3. 9-10
    4. 9-10
    5. 9-10
    6. 9-10
    7. 9-10
    8. 10-9
    9. 10-9
    10. 9-10
    11. 10-9
    12. 10-9

    final: 114-114 draw, which would have been the best outcome for this epic fight,
    I dont count the kd, its a slip.
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Great thread by the way
     
  7. killuminix

    killuminix yes im back Full Member

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    morales slipped in 12th and anyone that says he didn't is a butt****ing ****
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I've never heard anyone, including Barrera, try and claim that the knockdown was legitimate. Calm down, Suzie.
     
  9. deaman

    deaman Active Member Full Member

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    Awesome write up. You just convinced me to re-visit this fight :good
     
  10. killuminix

    killuminix yes im back Full Member

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    yea no one says that but they still give it as a 10-8 so wtf:huh
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Although it was a big error by the referee, it ultimately had no bearing whatsoever on the result.
     
  12. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had something like 115-112 or 114-113 for Barrera. Close but clear.
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I tried making a thread like this but it seemed no one was interested as much. I guess you gotta do it one by one.
     
  14. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    I thought the first round to be close but I did score that round for Barrera and I didn't feel myself to be swayed by the words of the commentators on that. That being said I'm having a bout of unfortunate memory loss as far as the events of round 1 go. I'll have a look in about ten minutes and come back with how I saw that.

    :good

    As far as the second fight goes I've watched it numerous times and felt differing outcomes. That being said I shall report back in a few days with a thorough write-up of said bout and that will settle the score once and for all.

    I've seen the third one a few times and I've felt that to be a Barrera win pretty much everytime. Once again I'll issue a full report but it will probably be at the end of the week.

    :good

    Cheers. I'll be doing more. I know you popped into my Wright/Vargas one and offered your voice.

    Lets not get too far ahead here. I went with the referees call on this one, and I do believe there is a punch in Morales going down although his going to ground appears to be more his own doing than Barrera's.

    Cheers man. It really is a spectacular fight. I struggle to get over how good it is to be honest. Like I said I've only ever rated Carbajal-Gonzalez over it, but that was for a relatively brief period.

    :good