My timeline of the premiere HW in the world.

:rofl

 

Good stuff. Seems Frazier's time reign gets undervalued because of Ali and that tournament he didn't participate in. Could anyone argue that Ellis was just as much as a premiere guy after he won that tournament until Frazier met and defeated him in 1970? Devil's advocate, here.

 

Frazier was regarded as better especially after Ellis's performance against Patterson.

 

The highlighted parts I´d have different, otherwise very nice. Especially the shouts for Moore (!!!) and Byrd. :thumbsup

Reigns by years:
12: Joe Louis
8: Max Schmeling, Larry Holmes
7: Muhammad Ali
6: John L. Sullivan, James J. Jeffries, Jack Dempsey, Evander Holyfield, Wlad Klitschko
5: Sam Langford, Harry Wills, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis
4: Peter Jackson, James Corbett, Jack Johnson, Rocky Marciano, Floyd Patterson, Sonny Liston,
3: Bob Fitzsimmons, Gene Tunney, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Riddick Bowe
2: Jess Willard, Jack Sharkey, Ezzard Charles, Joe Walcott, Archie Moore
1: Marvin Hart, Max Baer, James Braddock, Ingo Johannson, Michael Spinks, Buster Douglas, Michael Moorer, Hasim Rahman, Chris Byrd

But anyway, it´s a bit rewriting history, isn´t it? Fun though.

 

That's a great idea with legs. I'd quibble with details but so what.

 

Id say Bivins was the best heavy from mid/late 43 at least until Louis returned in late 44.

 

Well, well done. Lot of thought put into this, obviously. Bravo.

You earn props for elevating Holmes back to the top spot after the second Spinks fight, a robbery.

Liston may have been the best heavyweight a little earlier, although I'm not sure his resume earns the spot.

I think there were about 6 days when Larry Holmes was on vacation in the early 1980s where someone was better. Probably Dokes, Page, Coetzee, Weaver, Tate and Pinklon, each for one day.

Interesting spot for Archie Moore, and I don't necessarily disagree.

 

Leaving aside the argement over some of the times, if we use longevity as the main measure, does this leave your top 10 as follows:

1. Louis - 12 yrs
2. Johnson - Johnson 8 yrs
3. Holmes - 7 yrs
4. Klichsko - 6 yrs (and climbing)
5. Jeffries - 6 years
5. Sullivan - 6 years
5 Dempsey - 6 years
8 Ali - 5 years
8 Frazier - 5years
10 Tyson -5 years.

Very different, very interesting but very objective. I like this list.:happy

 

Nice work. Don't agree with every single pick, but I still think this actually makes more sense than the lineal title, which has been distorted by politics, racism, and bad decisions. Good effort.

 

Langford, in 1913 lost to
Gunboat Smith.
Drew with
Jeannette
Bell
McVey
I don't see how he could be considered a clear standout that year.
1914 he lost to
Jeff Clark
Drew with
Wills
Jeannette x2
Jim Johnson
Again no clear superiority
1915 he lost to
Jeannette
Wills
McVey
Drew with
McVey x2
Jim Johnson
What makes him a stand out ?

Carnera was never the best fighter in the world ,imo.
1933 Baer was the number 1 contender ,he was clearly the supreme heavyweight. Schmeling was no 4 ,Hamas no 9 .
I submit all were superior to Carnera who,in 32 was not even rated.
1934 Baer was champ,Hamas no 1, Lasky no 3, Schmeling no 4, Louis no 9,again all superior to Carnera ,imo.

 

I like this. Nice idea and i dont think there is anything on that list that could be argued about too strongly. Great job.

 

Good list mate