What if JMM beats Pacquiao Nov 12th!?!?!

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  1. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    So I've been reading alot of comments about how Pac is gonna destroy Marquez and this and that. Now do I think Pacquiao can beat Marquez or even KO him.....YES!! Do I think Marquez can beat Pacquiao....YES!!

    I dont get how almost everyone is writing Marquez off. Yes this is a higher weight class then the previous 2 fights and Marquez has only fought once at WW and is 3 years older but Hes to damn good, to smart of a boxer to just get killed in there.

    I dont know what you guys been seeing but Pacquiao hasnt changed much from the last time they fought. His right hand is a little bit better but other then that He still throws 3-4-5 punch combos recklessly and only lands about 1 or 2 punches out of that combo. Meaning hes wide open for MASSIVE COUNTER!! Only Mayweather is a better counter puncher then Marquez and thats saying alot. Thats the reason why there 2 fights were close. Styles make fights and his style will give trouble to Pacquiao no matter what.

    Alot people want to say that Marquez looked like **** against Mayweather at WW.....EVERYBODY LOOKS BAD AGAINST MAYWEATHER!! WTF guys!?!? Mayweather is the **** so to say Marquez wasnt good at all at 144 is a bunch of BS if you ask me, I've yet to see a fighter look good against Mayweather. So stop that nonsense. Now Pac has been fighting at WW for the last couple of years so its somewhat of an advantage but gimme a break with JMM looking slow or couldnt do anything at WW, he fought Mayweather for christ sakes!!

    Would I be surprised if Marquez won on Nov 12th....NOOOO! Dude is one of the best boxers i've seen in the last 20 years. I really hope he doesnt because they have an immediate rematch clause for a 4th fight which would take place May next year and we might never see Mayweather-Pacquiao! So I hope Pacquiao wins but Marquez anit going out like no *****...
     
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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    If marquez wins = rematch
     
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  3. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No chance in hell.
     
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  4. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

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    i'll put my money on Pac. but im not dismissing Marquez's style, he can trouble Pac.
     
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  5. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    What makes you think that? the pervious 2 fights? :lol::lol:
     
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  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Think about this, can anyone see marquez doing better then the first 2 fights here?
    Even if it ends up really close again I think boxing politics will come into play and pac will get the decision.
    I dont think it will get that far though or that its fair but it will be very hard for marquez to get the win november 12.
     
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  7. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maybe if marquez wins it would be the only way floyd fights pac.
     
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  8. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    I agree! No way Arum lets his cash cow lose.

    I agree also I dont see how he does better then the first 2 fights. If he does as good it might not be enough because it wasnt enough before
     
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  9. wilgen99

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    Inspite of Marquez's sourgraping and immature insults on Pacquiao, Filipinos still welcomed him warmly. That's just one proof that Filipinos, in general, are not hateful people.

    If JMM beats Pacquiao, Pacquiao will still be loved by Filipinos. JMM is a great fighter and if he wins, he wins. Both of them are warriors and clean fighters. It's going to be a great fight.

    My bet is still on Pacquiao though. TKO4:hey.
     
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  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Pac was picking Clottey, Marg and Mosley, they were demanding him to settle the score with JMM. Now Pac picks JMM, suddenly JMM becomes too old and ineffective at a higher weight (despite both fighters being almost exactly the same size - Pac at 148 and JMM at 145). Some of those people in the past have even claimed Pac to not have improved since the last JMM fight, and that his destructions of Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Marg were mere illusions and convenient cherry-picks. Now, these same people believe Pac will suddenly blow JMM out of the water - whilst still thinking he hasn't improved :huh - and anything less than that, will be disappointing.

    :roll:
     
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  11. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with ur technical analysis IN THEORY, and I recently watch Pac/Jmm 2 again and honestly, both fighters looked pretty much the same as they do now (TO ME). Manny's feet are fast but his footwork is sloppy when presented with a bit of movement, and his right hand has improved a bit. Marquez may have been a tad quicker but he still looked really slow in there with a speedster.

    But putting all that to the side and going with my gut, I'm inclined to believe that Pac steamrolls him.
     
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  12. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Where did all this love **** come from?? I didnt say anything about Marquez dissing Pacquaio or Filipino fans, man your a nutscase :nut:nut

    TKO 4.....I'm not buying that at all. If he gets droped it will be in the later rounds, hes just to good.
     
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  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    But if Marquez somehow does clearly win it will be one of the best wins ever, on a duran/leonard level.
     
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  14. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Yeah it would!! I wouldnt mind seeing that either, Marquez has been through alot and if he finally got that siganture I would be happy for him
     
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  15. NotAnMMAfan

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    But as soon as PAC brutalize JMM you'd be the one who will discredit this win saying Marquez is way past it and is out of his comfort zone weight-wise. :hi::hi::hi:
     
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