If Hopkins beats Dawson is he Top 3 P4P?

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  1. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Behind Pacman and Mayweather?
     
  2. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Top 6 - 8.

    These five have been more dominating than him.

    Manny Pacquiao
    Sergio Martinez
    Nonito Donaire
    Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Wladimir Klitschko
     
  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I would put him over marquez and maybe wlad.
    I have hopkins at 7 now
     
  4. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prolly around 6-7
     
  5. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    I say:

    Pacquiao
    Mayweather
    Martinez
    Donaire
    W. Klit
    B-Hop
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Certainly not top 3, the LHW division is pretty weak nowadays so A top P4P guy would have to utterly dominate the division.
    He might just edge the top 10 imo.
     
  7. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    donaire only has 3 good wins and never fights.i hardly think he deserves to be ranked above hopkins
     
  8. qwert

    qwert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He might just edge Martinez to fourth sport for me. Sexy Sergio's big wins (Williams, alcoholic Pavlik) are slightly overrated IMO.
     
  9. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Donaire had 6 fights since 2009. His record is 6-0-0, with 5 KOs.
    Hopkins had 4 fights since 2009. His record is 3-0-1, with 0 KO.
     
  10. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    yeah but who are the other 3 in that 6? nobodies

    he never capitalizes on his momentum.the fact it has taken him 7 months since his destruction of montiel to even schedule a fight is a joke
     
  11. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    I would say yes, but have no problems with the #4 spot either. He is taking on the young bucks at the top of their division. These are quality wins in fights he was expected to lose.
     
  12. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    where did you have pascal in your p4p ranking for beating diaconu twice, beating dawson and then drawing with hopkins?

    where do you have froch in your rankings for beating pascal, taylor, dirrel, abraham, and johnson?
     
  13. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    For me its hard to put together a top 10 in order but he is in it.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He would go back in my current top ten, which he isn't in. I swear people can't separate an amazing accomplishment for a 46-year-old man and an amazing accomplishment for anyone else.

    How can anyone even compare Donaire's work to Hopkins over their last three fights? Montiel is so much better than Pascal, and he was obliterated in two to Hopkins' decision, viciously destroying Syd is better than a hard luck draw with Pascal after being put down a few times, and Hernan Marquez isn't great but he has got to be better than an utterly shot to **** RJJ coming down in weight immediately after a first round stoppage loss to Danny Green. Especially looking at what either has done since. I mean, this is a current p4p list, meaning where they're at right now. Not an accomplishments list.
     
  15. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    i disagree.montiel was tiny compared to donaire and was 33 i think? or maybe it was 32...anyway i think he and pascal match up in terms of signifigance

    pascal,especially on foreign soil with a belt on the line is 10 times better than the sydorenko victory

    but yes that rjj win is worthless