Wlad is not a top 20 HW, he has never beaten anyone of significance

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  1. The Mongoose

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    Nothing to explain, as you know the so called Super Negroid body plan is not exclusive to what we think of as "Negro." And as done stated, the majority of modern Egyptians lineage have been descended from these same people.
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Agreed,

    Jersey Joe Walcott was in some ways like Bernard Hopkins is today. A very well trained fighter who adapted his style to fit his age and harnest his experience beautifully. On the night Walcott met Marciano, he could have fooled a lot of people into thinking that he was 7-8 years younger than he really was ( 37 ), with the outstanding condition he was in and the well polished skills he put forth. In fact, I have often wondered if Walcott might have won more of his earlier fights had THAT version showed up a few years earlier.
     
  3. Nay_Sayer

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    WTF are YOU talking about? Nothing I have posted in any way contradicts the fact that all human beings have an African root.

    It just so happens that the Ancestors of the Ancient Egyptians *never* left the African continent and therefore *never* lost their tropical adaptation. IOW, they were NOT cold adapted, like modern Europeans are.

    Ancient Egypt = Black African
     
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    Ok, then please tell us who are the "non-negroid" people who have "super-negroid" body plans? And don't forget to cite your evidence.

    I'm waiting...
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    A survey cited by Kemp (2005) of ancient Egyptian crania spanning all time periods found that the Egyptian population as a whole clusters more closely to modern Egyptians than to other groups, but that they also cluster more closely to the Asian and Mediterranean groups than they did to the earlier Sub-Saharan African groups. Kemp also noted that Egypt conquered and settled Nubia beginning in the 1st Dynasty
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    [/url] points out that limb elongation is "clearly related to the dissipation of metabolically generated heat" in areas of higher ambient temperature. He also stated that "skin color intensification and distal limb elongation is apparent wherever people have been long-term residents of the tropics". He also points out that the term [url]
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    [/url] is inappropriate, as it is also applied to non negroid populations. These features have been observed among Egyptian samples-Brace CL, Tracer DP, Yaroch LA, Robb J, Brandt K, Nelson AR (1993).
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    You have not answered the question.

    Who are the "non-negroid" people that have the "super-negroid" body plan? Please cite your evidence.

    I'm STILL waiting...
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    This is getting silly.

    We could trade sources and notes till the end of time. The fact that so many contradictions exist, only provides further evidence that the subject is still up for debate and far from over.

    Every diffrent source we trade, sways this further and further in my direction of "inconclusive" Even your sources, are quick to point this out.

    And how about your inability to apply the same standards to Lennox Lewis and Rocky Marciano?

    :hi:
     
  8. Nay_Sayer

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    You have not answered the question.

    Who are the "non-negroid" people that have the "super-negroid" body plan? Please cite your evidence.

    I'm STILL waiting...
     
  9. Nay_Sayer

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    And BTW, you should read your sources more carefully.

    Why don't you take a second look and see EXACTLY what Brace is saying here...
     
  10. Nay_Sayer

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    Cite your evidence please...
     
  11. cross_trainer

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    On another note, why is anyone using Egyptian art to "prove" their race? Egyptian art was very stylized and operated according to rigid conventions for the entire 3000+ years of its history. Their art does not represent their facial features precisely enough to tell anything about their "race" (a meaningless concept in the ancient world anyway). You might as well use anime to "prove" that the Japanese were white, black, or whatever.

    For instance:

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    Does this picture "prove" that the Egyptians had triangular torsos, heads twice the size of normal people, giant eyeballs, and no toes? (Before you say no, bear in mind that they drew themselves this way for three millenia...)
     
  12. Nay_Sayer

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    We don't need to look @ Ancient Egyptian Art to establish the FACT of their African identity.

    No problems here...
     
  13. cross_trainer

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    But that's exactly what you tried to do earlier...

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    Here's what you posted

     
  14. cross_trainer

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    Anyway, here's some Egyptian art that displays the "enormous" differences in the way they draw Levantines, Nubians, and Egyptians:

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    Aside from hair styles and skin tones, I'm hard pressed to tell the difference.
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Feel free to explain why you hold Lennox Lewis to a different standard than Rocky Marciano, anything. This is a boxing forum.

    And Brace is further elobrating his quote here:

    "Adjacent people in the Nile valley show similarities in trivial traits in an unbroken series from the delta in the north southward through Nubia and all the way to Somalia at the equator. At the same time, the gradient in skin color and body proportions suggests long-term adaptive response to selective forces appropriate to the latitude where they occur. An assessment of “race” is as useless as it is impossible. "