The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on what you consider "Negatively affecting" PAC in the ring. As you know boxing is very much a mental sport. PAC doesn't like giving blood period but does as part of his requirements as a professional boxer. that's mental... so would be GIVING in to demands from a fighter who sought out to destroy your reputation by spreading unfounded and baseless rumors aimed at pulling into question your career accomplishments.

    PAC can still make Floyd pay....but only if Floyd is willing to take the chance in facing the one man at 147 who can beat him. The tests are agreed to....the purse should still remain 50/50 so the only obstacle is Floyd himself. Either he will step up to fight PAC or he won't. No one can make Floyd do what he doesn't want.
     
  2. motorcity

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    If you haven't been watching, Pac has slowed down since he moved up. And if Floyd is so concerned, why didn't he ask Hatton for a test, the fight where he called the shots? I find it more odd that a guy who fights at 140-147 can baloon instantly back up to 180 and then go down back to 140 in a 12 week training camp. I guess he wasn't too concerned about Hatton being on somthing.
     
  3. KnuckleUp99

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    Unfortunately FSDT (FLOYD'S STYLE DRUG TESTS) wouldn't scare anyone who dopes. It's just not effective in catching someone who is cycling PED's. Olympic testing...sure...it's the gold standard and even those tests are beaten all the time. WADA only catches less than a percent of those who have something illegal in their system and more than half of those who are caught from that less than a percent figure are caught with THC...not PEDs. Not to mention URINE testing catches 90% of those who dope...
     
  4. acr347

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    I should've specified, I meant gear cycle as in anabolic aas. Not peds, brah.
    Not HGH, EPO, Clenbuterol, ECA stack, or any other stimulant.
     
  5. motorcity

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    So why don't Floyd fight outside of Vegas where it's illegal if he's so concerned about cleaning up the sport? Whether legal or illegal, PEDs are PEDs and Floyd is playing God off of this deciding which PEDs he can take and which PEDs his opponent can't take.
     
  6. Concrete

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    Mayweather probably didn't want to risk the NASAC turning him down and then the fight would be even harder to make.

    Do you honestly believe Mayweather wouldn't make weight for 147? And if he did come over weight and the fight got cancelled he wouldn't be able to recover from that.
     
  7. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't catch a cheat unless you know his regular blood levels which is why they test over 365 days.
    Random testing during a 6 week period is not random. random testing during a 365 day period is random.
     
  8. eze

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    It's not illegal outside of Vegas. :patsch
     
  9. eze

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    Random testing isn't random?


    :lol: Holy ****.
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

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    There would no reason at all for the NSAC to deny it. They, and the City of Las Vegas, stand to lose TOO much over denying something that many already see as a good thing.

    All I can say is, Floyd did it before. So I cannot say he would or would not, since I'm not him.

    I don't care if it's Floyd who wouldn't recover. If the fight was scrapped because of that, it would be bad for everyone involved. But mostly the fans.
     
  11. Concrete

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    I don't even think Pac is the one with the issue reguardless. I believe Roach and his team are the ones looking to "protect him". Pac has always been known as a warrior who doesn't let things get to him. Just laughs in peoples face. Pac doesn't go around listening to Mayweather interviews he is always told what Mayweather said and fed opinions by his team. Roach, Konz, Ariza are the ones that put this negative **** in his head for it to be a mental issue because they are the ones insecure about Mayweather's boxing ability.

    Everything Pac has said on the issue is rehashed stuff that Roach, Arum, Ariza, and Konz have fed him. The Ariza-Pac video on the web confirmed that.
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Yeah, just ignore the rest of his post....:roll:
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I didn't ignore.


    Even I quoted his whole post, he still said random testing isn't random.

    Random testing inside 6 weeks, is random testing in those 6 weeks. He is saying it's not, and you can only do random testing for year round. Which its better than inside the 6 wee ks, but random testing is random. is it not?
     
  14. Exactabox

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    Random within a non random period = non random. wow.

    you know when you cannot use PED's (during Floyd's small testing period of a few weeks) and there is no way to know an athletes normal blood levels unless samples taken over a 52 week period.
    Would it matter if they told you when the test dates were or not ? You wouldn't be able to cycle during the small window of testing which you know in advance so not random.

    Under Floyd's testing you can do PED's for 46 weeks and stop before the testing period. In the Olympics at any time you use PED's you are in jeopardy of being caught. Random testing is all 52 weeks.

    If someone told you to study 52 items and said learn them all I will test you randomly on them - random testing - OLYMPICS
    If someone told you to study 52 items and said learn the last 6, I will only test you on the last 6 - not random - FLOYD
     
  15. Phanekim

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    sad thing is if you are a fan of cycling like i am you learn everything about doping. quite frankly conte is right.

    mayweather's claim is a legit one still. testing is better than no testing. however, there are so many ways around and the usada has a history of corruption.

    its not an easy issue. quite frankly the main issueh olding up pac and pbf is money. haymon and arum are greedy and know they can make mor emoney without them 2 fighting.
     
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