How good was the Hopkins that beat Pavlik?

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  1. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    No shame in losing a close one to a prime De La Hoya. Trinidad was still a formidable fighter at 160 pounds too I reckon. Nothing really showed that he was any less of a fighter than he was at his prime weight, 154, from watching his decimation of William Joppy at least.
     
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  2. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had a lot more respect for Hopkins ability back then, more then most people. Hopkins was a big middle wieght and Trinidad was fighting under 150 pounds most of his career. No shame getting schooled a little bit against Oscar but I knew that Hopkins would be able to take advantage of him based on that fight. Good performance though.
     
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  3. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    pav was a hit in y'town well before taylor. how do you know he hasnt always enjoyed knocking a few back? all this post taylor meltdown is what you hear...not what you have seen. i hope he gets it together b/c i'm a loyal fan, but i'm not going to blindly believe his problems started there.
     
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  4. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    PAVLIK ALWAYS ****ING DRANK! He always went out during training camps! All over Y-Town /W a r ren area! I met him in my hometown of Howland Ohio at a Bar called UP A CREEK. He used to go eat & drink at Vernon's Cafe ( $$$$) in Niles With a buddy of mine on Mondays! The dude partyed Period, and still was successful! This is a FACT!
     
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  5. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    B-HOP looked unbeatable that night!
     
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  6. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    echols, johnson, trinidad, tarver.

    also, we dont know the condition of the pavlik that went into that fight. i remember seeing him interviewd in one of his locals bars playbnig darts prior to his fight with b-hop. dont know if he was drinking but what the **** are you doing in a bar prior to a fight with bernard hopkins?
     
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  7. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, I don't live in Yongstown but I heard he started drinking more once he won the title. He may have celebrated quite a bit after winning the middle weight title like a lot of people would. I think its pretty safe to say he started drinking more heavily after he beat Taylor then before but maybe not.
     
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  8. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not as good as the Calzaghe that beat Hopkins.
     
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  9. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    after the beat down hopkins gave him is where the heavy drinking began IMO.
     
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  10. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could be but I can imagine after the big pay day after the Taylor fight he might have started drinking to much. I know if I became the middle weight champion and had about a million dollers I would be doing some heavy duty celebrating
     
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