Wlad is not a top 20 HW, he has never beaten anyone of significance

Fair enough. Tell me which books, experiences, etc. you derived this knowledge from, or where I could look for it.

Also, I'll add that I've basically done all of your work in this debate. You believe that Egypt was technologically impressive, but I've been stuck trying to "prove" that it wasn't, even though the onus should have been on you (you are the one who holds the belief, after all). Your refusal to do anything but demand sources and repeat "pyramids" has forced me to basically construct your argument for you.

So...getting back to the point of this entire thread, tell me what the Egyptians did that was impressive. If you think it's the pyramids, explain why they represent an engineering triumph compared the numerous other civilizations who built similar structures of similar size.

 

What does any of this have to do with NE Africa and the fact that the people who lived there during the predynastic and dynastic Egypt were tropically adapted and shared the same genetic traits as other African people?

Ok, so what does this have to do with that fact that genes have been flowing OUT of Africa INTO SW Asia since the prehistoric?

If you're saying that there was enough intermarrying going on during the predynastic and dynastic Egypt to have a significant impact on indigenous NE African populations then I'm telling you right now that you have been lied to.

Yes, there are Africans and there are non-Africans. Is this really that hard for you to accept?

All non-African genes are a subset of East African DNA. This is the reason why ALL non-African people have a closer genetic relationship to East Africans than Africans from other parts of the continent. NE Africans left Africa to populate the WHOLE of the earth.

Misleading.

Ancient Egyptians are a Pan African people, just like African Americans. Eurasians had *nothing* to do with Ancient Egypt.

The indigenous populations of Ancient Egypt were an African people and displayed traits similar to other Africans.

Africans have always referred to themselves as "Black". So much so that the words "African" and "Black" can be considered synonymous. This is especially true of the Ancient Egyptians who *always* referred to themselves as "Black".

I don't think so.

The Ancient Egyptians were an African people, and displayed traits similar to other Africans, like for instance tropical adaptation. Eurasians NEVER made a significant contribution to the gene pool of the people who would produce Egyptian civilization.

 

ya and dont 4 get he got his brother to beat up ross purritty and corrie sanders 4 him

 

A good place to start.

[url]http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=8[/url]

 

Again, :wall

Africa is more genetically diverse than the rest of the world combined. Your own statements basically confirm this.

So how can you talk about "Africans" as some distinct group of people when they're basically as diverse from each other as they are from "Eurasians", who come from a tiny subset of Africans?


Also, you're still mixing genetic, geographic, political, and cultural definitions of "black" when you're discussing the Ancient Egyptians.

 

Would you describe the contents of this forum as a typical cross-section of your beliefs about Egypt?

 

Yes, Africa is the most genetically diverse place on earth.

But guess what? All indigenous Africans are still uniquely African.

While Africans may have distinctions from each other, they are also distinct from non-Africans and have more in common with each other than with non-Africans. Case in point, tropical adaptation.

1 + 1 = 2

 

Beliefs?

No "beliefs", just the cold hard facts.

 

We have already covered this. All non-African people on earth are a subset of East African DNA. Hence, all non-Africans have less genetic diversity.

 

WowI guess 1+1 doesn't equal 2...:think

:roll:

As you can see the sad truth is Nay Sayer has no standards or consistent logic to his arguments and opinions. He simply does not like Marciano because he is a successful white fighter held in elite all time great status by history, his hatred of the K-brothers is likewise racially motivated, so he makes up his so called "Facts" and "Standards" as he goes to justify his raciall motivated viewpoint.

Kind of like a Nazi....:huh

 

Despite its math problem, your post doesn't make any sense.

Africans are genetically diverse, but are "uniquely African". How? They're just as diverse from each other as they are from "Eurasians", if not moreso. They're AT LEAST as culturally diverse from each other as "Eurasians". And comparing cultures doesn't even make sense when you're adding the Ancient Egyptians to your mystical Pan-African union.

Yet the only similarity you've cited consistently is "tropical adaptation". Seriously? That's the great, mystical bond that you assume connects every African? Kinda sad, if true. You might as well say that Northern Europeans and Japanese are Pan-Northern because their lighter skin tones are adaptations to cooler climates.

Here's the problem: Whenever you see "African" people who don't share genetic similarities, you point to cultural similarities. Whenever you don't see cultural similarities, you point to "tropical adaptation". Basically, you're moving your terms around and pretending that they all mean the same thing. You're trying (and failing) to create a little "Pan African" bubble around a continent that has more genetic and cultural diversity than most of the rest of the world combined.

I see no difference between the quasi-mystical connection you see between African people (with their massive family of languages, lifestyles, histories, and genes across millennia) and the equally absurd Pan-Indo-European silliness from the turn of the century.

 

Uh, yes.

That's exactly my point. Did you read my post?

...Did you read your post?

 

So is that a yes?

 

WowI guess 1+1 doesn't equal 2...:think

:roll:

As you can see the sad truth is Nay Sayer has no standards or consistent logic to his arguments and opinions. He simply does not like Marciano because he is a successful white fighter held in elite all time great status by history, his hatred of the K-brothers is likewise racially motivated, so he makes up his so called "Facts" and "Standards" as he goes to justify his racially motivated viewpoint.

Kind of like a Nazi....:huh

 

WowI guess 1+1 doesn't equal 2...:think

:roll:

As you can see the sad truth is Nay Sayer has no standards or consistent logic to his arguments and opinions. He simply does not like Marciano because he is a successful white fighter held in elite all time great status by history, his hatred of the K-brothers is likewise racially motivated, so he makes up his so called "Facts" and "Standards" as he goes to justify his raciall motivated viewpoint.

Kind of like a Nazi....:huh