Why is it that the mayweathers do all the dictating on what pac

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  1. OBSERVER7421

    OBSERVER7421 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why is it that the mayweathers do all the dictating on what pac must do....take the test, no training in the Philippines, bigger purse....who are they to dictate, their boy is only P4P#2.....and PAC is no.1


    2nd best doesnt have the privilege to demand from the real best...do you agree ? your thoughts....
     
  2. celiac trunk

    celiac trunk Guest

    pac spanked mayweather ala hagler.


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    "who are you, WHO ARE YOU? "
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    LMAO shut up man. The only thing Floyd asked for was the testing. The money split hasn't been an issue since 2009.
     
  4. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    none of that stuff is true...but if u want to believe it that's fine.
     
  5. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd's the cash cow...all roads lead to Floyd Mayweather.....he dominated the sport for 16 years...he's the malcom x, martin luther king of boxing, out to create a level playing field for all...
     
  6. OBSERVER7421

    OBSERVER7421 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    face it man floyd just want to have the upper hand and pac is not letting him....no.2 is no.2 not no. 1
     
  7. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Admit it, what would we all do to have this guy back? No nonsense, no drama queen bull ****, no ducking anyone.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Manny wanted to fight on March 13
    8 oz gloves
    catchweight below 147
    50/50 split
    10 million dollar weight penalty


    Floyd wanted to fight May 1
    10 oz gloves
    fight at 154
    60/40 split
    No cutoff on drug testing

    The compromised on everything in the first negotiation
     
  9. Killzoned

    Killzoned New Member Full Member

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    That's Funny cause Mayweather was talking how 8 oz gloves suits him, Why would he ask Manny to fight him at 154? WTF? are you trolling?
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    from what i remember pac came out with a 10 million weight penalty and then floyd cam out with the drug test. it was all over from there
     
  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm not trolling at all. Floyd really did ask for all of this. Don't shoot the messenger
     
  12. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah Manny wanted 60/40 when Mayweather offered 50/50 but went back down to 50/50 when he realized that he was being ridiculous. Mayweather never asked for 154 that was a Freddie Roach lie. Don't know if Mayweather wanted 10 ounce gloves either or not. But if he did want 10 ounce gloves it would be in the commission rules to grant him that over the 8 ounce gloves.
     
  13. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather has never made the claim that Pac can't train in the Philippines(yet anyway).

    Mayweather earned his stripes as he gave into everything Oscar De La Hoya demanded. There was no compromise with Hoya vs Mayweather. Hoya took everything, Mayweather beat him and took the crown. And guess what Mayweather was the #1 P4P at the time and still had to give into everything

    Manny wants the crown he has to take it from Mayweather.
     
  14. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Manny only became #1 by default due to Mayweather's reirement. The fact is Mayweather remains the bigger draw and still hasn't lost, if he even fought a tune up during the retirement Pac would have never gotten #1. Most still regard Mayweather as a more skilled fighter. It's like when Frazier took Ali's spot when Ali was forced out of the ring for 3 years, everyone still knew who the man was cause he hadn't lost his top spot due to losing a fight, even Frazier recognized this. When Joe Louis won the title he didn't consider himself champ and wanted no one to call him champ until he beat Schmelling.



    Not to mention in recent times Mayweather's fought much better opposition:

    In their last 6 fights here's how Pacquiao's and Mayweathers opponents match up:

    Pacquiao's:

    Shane Mosley- Mayweather leftover.... way past his prime. Coming off a loss to Mayweather where he was dominated and a draw with journeyman Sergio Mora (someone he would have toyed with in his prime). Mosley was 40 years old.

    Antonio Margarito- Way past his prime, hadn't won a fight in over 2 years. Coming off brutal KO loss to Shane Mosley. Margarito was 32. Margarito was forced to drain weight and fight Pac at a catchweight

    Josh Clottey- never been a top level operator. always good for his divison but no top name. Coming off a controversial close loss to Miguel Cotto. Clottey was 33.

    Miguel Cotto- Past his prime but still solid Cotto, very good win for a small guy moving up in weight by Pacquiao. Cotto was WBO welterweight champ. Cotto wasn't in his best shape though and was coming off a controversial close win over Josh Clottey and before that a brutal beatdown KO loss to Antonio Margarito. Cotto was forced to drain weight and fight Pac at a catchweight

    Ricky Hatton- Yet another Mayweather leftover. Decent win for a small guy moving up in weight but Hatton was coming off a brutal KO loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr, Hatton was 31.

    Oscar De La Hoya- Another Mayweather leftover. De La Hoya was forced to drain weight and fight Pac at Welterweight which is a weight Oscar hadn't weighed for over 8 years!! Making the weight nearly killed Oscar, he had visible IV marks on his arms (which Pacs trainer Freddy Roach noted) he also looked like a skeleton in the face, he looked ill. De La Hoya was not only severly weight drained, he was past his prime coming off of a loss to Mayweather Jr and a hard fought decision against tiny Steve Forbes who busted his face up (prime Oscar would have handled Forbed with ease). De La Hoya was 35.

    Mayweathers:

    Victor Ortiz- WBC world Welterweight champ coming off huge win and upset in the fight of the year where he beat Andre Berto knocking him down several time in spectacular fashion to capture Berto's championship belt. Young powerful southpaw. Ortiz was 24.

    Shane Mosley- WBA world Welterweight champ coming off HUGE brutal upset KO win over Antonio Margarito. Mosley was past his prime vs Mayweather but coming off a big win he looked excellent in and he was the champ at Welterweight. Mosley was 38.

    Juan Manuel Marquez- Lightweight champion moving up in weight coming off of big stoppage wins over top notch fighters Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz. Gave Pacquaio 2 of his hardest fights earning a draw and losing a split decision in fights where many had Marquez winning both. This win isn't great as fighting at Welterweight effected Marquez' perfomance just as it will in the 3rd Pacquiao vs Marquez fight which is at Welterweight in November which makes a Pac win in that fight not a big deal but none the less, Mayweather dominated Pacquaio's biggest rival Marquez with ease winning all 12 rounds and knocking Marquez down in the process. Mayweather made what was so hard for Manny look easy. Marquez was 37.

    Ricky Hatton- Undefeated long reigning Junior Welterweight champ of the world in the peak of his prime. Coming off a huge winning streak against some of the best Junior Welterweights in the world ending with a big KO win over former Mayweather rival Jose Luis Castillo before the Mayweather fight. Hatton was 29.

    Oscar De La Hoya- Coming off a brutal stoppage win over 2 time champ Ricardo Mayorga. Mayweather moved up in weight to fight the bigger De La Hoya at De La Hoya's most comfortable weight and conceded all advantages to De La Hoya in negotiations. De La Hoya was 34.

    Carlos Baldomir- Recognized #1 and consensus Welterweight champion of the world. Coming off shocking upset over former champ Zab Judah and a KO win over Arturo Gatti. Baldomir was 36.

    So you'll see all of Mayweathers opponents are closer to their primes and coming off big wins while all of Pacquaio's are coming off losses and 3 of them coming off losses to Mayweather who beat them before Pacquiao. On top of that you'll see Pacquiao's team made some of his opponents drain weight and fight him at lower weight classes making them weaker on fight night while Mayweather fought them all in their own weight classes and even moved up in weight to fight the bigger De La Hoya at his most comfortable weight.
     
  15. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Manny does not want to take the test its fine whatever he can keep fighting Floyd left overs