Let's see a video of Bute vs Andrade rd 12 with a stop watch.

A fighter is supposed to be up under his own power. In other words, nothing can be holding the fighter up. In this case, Bute was clearly propped up by the ropes and the count should have continued.

The rule book is very clear on this. Notice a fighter who is only held up by the ropes is considered knocked down. It is the same principle.

Bute's ref saved his ass in this fight. It was complete chicken**** in every way. At least Bute did the honorable thing and offered a rematch after this disgrace.

 

fast count but i like how the guy cops a feel of her brest at 8:44

 

Wrong. In the 12th round, as soon as his gloves clear the mat, the fight is over.

 

Wrong. Being saved by the bell would mean you're still down when the ring bells. According to the IBF and the Unified rules, the fighter doesn't have to be in condition to continue when the 12th round is over... because there is no time left. He can't be hit no more. In all other rounds, the fighter has to be in condition to continue because... the fight is not over.

 

Andrade won that fight.

 

Your PMS do not decide of the boxing rules. Bute has won, you can watch boxrec if you want. That's called reality.

 

Huck also beat Lebedev, Evander Holyfield drew with Lennox Lewis and the list goes on and on and on.

The simple fact that it's on boxrec does not mean it's REALITY, by any stretch of the imagination.

Andrade TKO12.

Bute did good coming back though.

 

Lol, Andrade got annihilated the second time so why does it matter anymore anyway. Even if he won the first fight, the best of Bute is vastly superior to the best of Andrade and that is the reality.

 

:deal

 

^.

 

Yeah, he counts to "4" and "5" at 8:28 atsch It does make it fit with Garay being down for 10 seconds, but surely that can be legal?

Watched it live on TV at the time, and had the fight even before the knockout. Good action fight.

Oh, you noticed the breast :yep pretty weird, as the "grooper" is Hucks dad, and the girl he touches is Hucks wife(Fiance at the time, but they married a week later)

 

Mistakes from Bute: not prepared/condition enough. I dont think thats the real problem here.
Mistakes from the Ref: Could have stop the fight sooner, he didnt and apply the neutral corner rule very stiffly.

So what people have now to ask themselves:
1- Does Bute showed that he improved and that he learned his lesson and became a better boxer?
2- Does my anger/hate is really against the ref?
Then you will feel better.

My answer:
1- Yes he showed that he improved and he moved forward.
2- Maybe what the ref did was to kept the 0 on Bute, but the fact is the Super six took a lot of times and so Bute would not have any problem to have rematch and redeem himself. Nothing showed us that Bute would have crumble and lost his mojo in a defeat. I dont care about his 0, I care about what he brings in his fights. So the ref made a mistake, but I dont care about it, refs makes mistakes all the time, in fact Bute was on the wrong side of more ref mistakes than the opposite even though that one time is the only one we remember. What buggles me more its that 2 years later, unlike Bute, some people didnt move forward...

 

Yeah and dont forget:
1- no protest were officialy made by GBP. I mean, with a big promoter like that, if there was a big controversy as some think, they would have made waves, but nothing...
2- And yet when GBP won the purse bid for the rematch they made the fight in Québec... Then did the same with the rematch of Pascal and Hopkins.

So it shows that even if it wasnt the usual fight ending, it wasnt the worst stuff/robbery either.

 

he beat the clock and the ref count

up b4 ten on two counts

i dont see any controversy here

if andrade wanted time to finish he would not have charged out of the corner til it was times surely one more good blow woulda put the exhausted Bute down again but he charged out before give his cue

rematch settled biz

 

Just to add from what you said.

The meaning to see if the boxer can continue is to protect the boxer against a beating. In this case as demigawd have demonstrate he could not have receive any shot because the fight was over.