Objectively, the two reasons why Pac must rank higher than Floyd in ATG terms...

Honestly, you really don't have any standing to call someone a ***** as if it signifies some sort of fanaticism.


You are more fanatic in your hatred of Floyd than anyone on this forum is in their admiration for him.


And yes, I think it can be debated reasonably, because it depends on how much you rate Pac's most recent wins compared to Floyd's wins... and how much you rate Pac's losses. It could go either way, honestly. But I give the slight edge to Pac.

 

I never said losses were the only thing that should be considered. But they matter. For someone to dismiss losses completely is total bull**** and you know it...


Any objective fan would relize this.

 

What your saying is that Pac were always weight drained during all those great fights he had. Make sense. :think

 

I admire Fraud. I hate his persona, like a kid but he is who he is. *****s on the other hand are spineless cretins who apparently 'knows boxing more than anybody else in the world". And I hate that pretentiousness.

Simply put, I just dislike *****s.

I already stated this 5 years ago, *****s will dig up his loss when he was a teen-ager fighting men and put significance to it. I am sure that Donaire lost his first fight too.

 

I didn't say you did say that either. For any fan of the sport to not openly be able to say Pac is above Floyd in ATG rankings is intellectually dishonest. I know you said he was, but you're sugarcoating it saying it's close. Virtually every fan of the sport (That's not primarily a fan of one fighter over the other) agrees that Pac is the greater fighter in terms of legacy. Even those that think it's close can't not say Pac. Pac is literally closer to being ranked to Muhammad Ali then Floyd is to Pac.

 

And Pac losses are all in his prime too!!!!

 

You are the one who is being a intellectually dishonest.


First of all, there are very few boxing fans who are not huge fans of one or the other. And everyone knows Pac has more people who really like him. So for you to act as if there are a bunch of real knowledgeable boxing fans who are not a fan of one or the other is ridiculous.


And to say that pac ranks close to Ali just closes the conversation for me.


Let's just agree to not discuss this with each other any further. :deal

 

I am a boxing fan first and then a fan of a certain boxer. Losses are expected because they are indicators of competitive fights. Pacquiao's losses were years ago. He's a completely different fighter now and comes to fight every time. Objective boxing fans know he is ranked higher than Mayweather at this point.

 

Thanks for being a moron

 

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Just come out and say that you are a Pac fan.


You guys are all the same. You can't accept anyone who could possibly disgree with you about anything related to Pac. There are objective people out there who would disagree with you.


But you Pac fans are so hellbent on trying to shove your man-worship down everyone else's throat that you can't see it. And you get so ****ing emotional and take it as such an insult when someone doesn't automatically sing his praises.

 

Could your poll be more bias?

I swear man...I make perfectly unbias threads...then the *******s come out n make the most bias polls...

"explain in one but not the other" lmfao..

horrible debate pattern.

 

You serious?

Why would you have to explain what's already been explained. It's simple, S. You either agree with the OP or you don't. If you don't, explain why. Consider yourself warned though. If your explanation consists of silly **** like, "The Castillo win is as good as wins over Pacquiao and Barrera" then I'm blocking you.