Martinez V.S Mayweather: It's going Down!!!

Why......? A 150 ob Sergio is still Floyd's best fight besides Castillo, and it would still be against the biggest man he's fought.

Props to Floyd if he let's this happen. He'd be much better served to fight Pac at 147...... more $$$$$$, and less beating.:deal

Albeit not much less beating. either way the 0 is still history.:deal

 

Floyd fighting at a catchweight vs marquez would have given jmm a better chance of winning so as a fans perspective would have been a better fight! manny fights at catchweights to drain the other fighters ala cotto or margarito. Vacant 154 belt, why not fight at 154?! Floyd potentially fighting martinez at 154 is a catchweight fight where both fighters have compromised. martinez will have to lose a few pounds and floyd will have to gain a few. Thats a compromise! not ****ing manny fighting margarito at 150 for a bull**** 154 title!

 

lol @ sergio getting 40%

 

Floyd v JMM was at a catch weight.. Still doesn't dispute the fact that Manny has relied more on the catch weight scenario in most of his fights at ww and beyond so therefore suits the "catch weight king" moniker more than Mayweather.

If the fight with Sergio is made I would be highly surprised if Floyd fights him at a catch weight of anything less than 154lb. Nothing about Floyds history suggest he relies on draining opponents of weight. However, this is an extremely dangerous fight and Sergio is desperate so 150lb shouldn't come as a surprise.

 

The titles are useless.

Talk about double standards. If Floyd employs a catchweight its to give the guy a better chance? How about: Floyd just wants to make the other guy fat? What compromise was there with Floyd-Hatton huh?

Don't bring up Margarito because what Floyd did to JMM is much worse. If the fight was at WW, then Floyd brought the weight limit up by 12 ****ing pounds from where JMM normally fights: LW. Whereas Margarito is a CAREER WW and Pac let him have some weight room.

 

Not to blast you or anything, but the only real 2 "catchweights" ie between 140 and 147 were Cotto and Marquez III.

Pac had a catchweight against Margo but essentially fought fought him as a WW, while allowing Margarito to weigh in above the limit (and Margo was a career welter as well). DLH wasn't a "catchweight" but at the WW limit.

 

25 pages.

I wonder how long this thread will stay active before people start realising there are no plans to make this fight.

 

Its Sergio that said 150. its up to Manny or Floyd now.

 

Floyd hatton is a bad example as it's been proved Hatton was the heavier fighter come fight night.. Throughout hattons career he entered the rind at 154lb -158lb.. At 147 against floyd he weighed 158lb and lost with most using the excuse he was the smaller man when in fact he was just ineffective up at welterweight and would not have beaten floyd at 140 lb either.. The difference hear is Floyd rarely does seek a catch weight and usually doesn't rely on draining his opponents.. At the end of the day Marquez was at fault for not coming up in weight properly by adding muscle, Floyd never forced him to be fat and gave him every chance to do it right and give himself a chance. JMM said this himself when he claimed he would do it more professionally for Manny. Draining opponents is a different scenario in that you are forcing them into a situation where they are weaker and without the options of a smaller fighter coming up in weight.

 

this. this fight isn't happening. unless sergio wants to do it at 151. which is complete suicide.

 

The technicalities behind the scenarios doesn't take away from the fact that however you describe the situation draining fighters of their weight is involved on a reasonably regular basis.. Freddy is testament to this constantly banging on about Manny being tiny so therefore draining em is ok.

 

Good reasoning, I'm not trying to argue the advantages of moving up or down in weight, the other poster was adamant about justifying that the JMM-Floyd fight was at 147 fight and didn't have that "catchweight" stigma attached to it, when in-fact it's a worse situation because it's even further away from what JMM was accustomed to.

 

Darren Barker Aka The Dog Whisperer.

This content is protected

 

Sounds better than Mayweather vs Pacquiao if that´s true.

 

Yes obviously the jmm floyd fight was at a catch weight, no disputing it. I just think each scenario is different and therefore the advantages are different in each case. Personally I think it' a case of too many weight classes.