Froch, "I felt Hopkins beat calzaghe"

Well Haye throw more scoring punches, than Wlad - normally you win then............................so yes !

 

True -

Froch built his earlier career on calling out Calzahge, about 2006 he became bitter as hell about the recognition Joe started to get in the US , he's got a massive blind spot where Joe's concerned and it seems he's still sore about being in his shadow.

 

I doubt anyone on ESB will ever take you seriously again - rreally , Haye outscored Wlad ???

The only thing haye did more of was falling over and then whining like a girl afterwards.

 

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I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.
People try and make out that Hopkins landed all of these odd big shots of note. Other than the knockdown which wasnt a massive punch but just caught Calzaghe square on and the punch at the end of round 7 made to look worse by an illegal headbutt, what are all of these other big punches? Calzaghe landed more telling shots overall and won round 7.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

 

I had Hopkins winning.

 

This thread needs to be made a sticky so everybody can see Jan(DK) claiming Haye outpointed Klitschko.

 

Dude, I have watched the fight in slowmo to figure out what went down. Haye landed one of his windmill punches in round three and a second in round twelve. The rest of the fight he did nothing but miss every time he tried anything. Wlad landed three heavy shots, caught on photo and slowmo replay, some stiff jabs, and a whole bunch of grazing jabs and rights. That clearly outweights Hayes work. But since Huyes shots where the only slow enough to see clearly lots of fan goes "Haye landed all the meaningfull punches." Still nothing but a myth.

 

Good thing he's a fighter and not a judge

 

a lot?...like who?...hopkins nuthuggers?

 

here comes cut n paster Bailey with the usual drivel

 

I love the "single highest scorecard" stat in a split decision.

This guy uses new tools to analyse his slappy hero !

 

Calzaghe won and it is not debatable. Calzaghe had BHOP totally on the back foot from round 3 onwards and was bossing the fight. BHOP was scared to fight and came to the ring with his negatives tactics that did not work, was in distress late on the fight because of the pace of the fight, could not even find his own corner as he was lost in the Calzaghe whirlwind.

 

is there a competition between Froch and his wife to see who's the most annoying one ?

 

Why dont you explain which part of that poster is drivel . Oh thats right, you cant because I gave over facts.
Live with the facts doylexxx and stop being a *****

 

I thought Hopkins nicked it too.