Also, It's crazy to me that people talk about Cotto like he was some terrible disappointment, not a great fighter. The guy has won belts in three divisions and probably beat 20 different top ten contenders. Yet guys like Ortiz, Berto, Pirog etc. are monsters with one or two good wins. Not that those guys aren't good and might one day accomplish a lot, but give a little respect to a guy like Cotto. He's had a terrific career!
Because, as I've already explained, they've both fought and won titles at 154. Sergio is willing to fight them 4 lbs below the highest weight class they've fought at. Hopkins isn't offering to fight Martinez at 156 is he? No. 2 weight divisions below him? He said he'd fight at 150. A quote from you in the same post: Yet Martinez fighting at 150 is calling out people 2 weight classes below him? Even if he's willing to make a 150 limit? One rule for Ortiz and another for Martinez eh?
See, now obviously this guy is just trolling or whatever, but Hopkins weighed in at 156 vs. Oscar, 157 vs. Tito. And he was a BIG middleweight, it would be silly for Floyd or Manny to fight him, as it was for Oscar, even though he made 156 no problem and always claimed he could have made light middle. Sergio should stay at middle, good fights there.
They are natural WW yet somehow all of them are "ducking" martinez when in reality they have no buissness fighting him in the first place and he weighted 165 yesterday so why cant he go up 5 pounds again? the bottomline is he is trying too hard and i hope nobody gives him a big payday until hes forced to go up... thats my opinion and you are entitled to yours. i think it was funny how his team almost had an aneurysm when bhop was mentioned.
This is the internet my dude, where blind love for one fighter equals out to blind hatred for another.
Ortiz weighed 164 on fight night against floyd and Margarito weighs roughly the same so should they fight BHop? Also Cotto and Mararito are natural WWs but they moved up to 154, and Martinez is willing to fight them in the division they currently fight in , whats wrong with that?
Whos a natural welterweight? Margarito couldnt make 147 now unless you started removing organs. Cotto is a healthy strong looking 154 champ. Floyd is a Welter but had held the light middleweight belt. Martinez is a natural light middle,as you can see by what he weighs in on weigh in day (157/158). Hes already "gone up". Hes fighting bigger guys at 160. Martinez started out as a welterweight remember?! Margarito weighed 165 against Pacquiao. Should he go fight Hopkins too? Ortiz weighed 164 vs Floyd,maybe his next fight should be against Bute?
there is nothing wrong with it i never said there was... just said i woudnt give him a chance and pointing the fact that he is trying to pick on smaller guys rather than fighting real challenges... there is nothing wrong with it i never said there was... just said i woudnt give him a chance and pointing the fact that he is trying to pick on smaller guys rather than fighting real challenges... he wants a big payday and i woudnt give it to him thats all...
And im saying that Margarito ISNT a smaller guy. They're the SAME WEIGHT, Martinez 165 vs Barker. Margarito 165 vs Pacquaio. Im sure Cotto weighs around 160 on fight night too. Most super middles weigh in near 180 on fight night,and someone like hopkins weighs in the 180s. Why should Martinez fight guys 15-20 lbs heavier than him when he can fight someone like Margarito who is te same size,or Cotto who may be a few lbs lighter?
Fail of a thread. He never called anyone a vag and the man weighed in at 158. No one gives a **** what weighs fight night. The only thing that matters or should matter is the weight they agreed to on the contract and thats what they should weigh at the WEIGH-IN!!! How many times must this be repeated ffs! If Floyd or Manny fight night decided to come in at 160-170 or 147 limit thats their decision. Ortiz and Mayorga are just afew that come in 15-20lbs heavier yet Oscar and Floyd pimp slapped them, didn't they? I don't think its the weight so much that bothers the haterz here its that Sergio is in Floyd and Mannys league thats why they dont want it to happen. They afraid of his power. Sometimes I wish Sergio never fought at MW we wouldnt have the world record of excuses from haterz here.
hes the one trying to make a name for himself hes the one who needs fans hes the one who says he cant find opponents hes the one that needs a payday hes the one who got exposed by barker so if he wants a big payday his opponents need him to bring something to the table because they are risking their titles/fans/legacy agaisnt a very dangerous fighter. i never said he wasnt good just that until he gets bigger fights under his belt he can go f off, i believe Cotto can actually give him a good fight, so can manny. Sergio is old and thats his own problem he brings nothing to the table... btw floyd/pac/cotto would very likely give him 2 big black eyes considering barker was connecting at will..
Manny fought at a catchweight for a 154 title and said never again, Floyd fought Oscar at 154 years ago, but again, what does that matter? They aren't challenging him he is challenging them and calling him out. Sergio is trying to cashout so hard he is putting his body in danger by trying to drain himself to fight a couple of WWs at 150 even though he claims he can no longer make 154. Ortiz fights at 147, he weighs in at 147 on fight night, he isn't calling out smaller people he is competting in his weight division. I know such simple things elude you.