Why are many saying martinez wont fight bigger fighters when he just ko'd....

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Williams (6'4), dzin (6'1), barker (6'1)? <<< those were smaller fighters? Lol. Dont give me (but williams and dzin dont have middleweight size) well neither does martinez. And now some here are bashing martinez for not accepting hopkins challenge? Lol whats with you ppl? Why cause martinez called out mayweather and pacquiao? Where was hopkins bashing when he wanted to fight a much smaller de la hoya? Where was vargas bashing for wanting to fight a smaller oscar when oscar was a ww that time? Where is gamboa for wanting to fight a smaller donaire? I can go on and on and on but you dont get it cause mostly here on esb posters are idiots. All martinez is doing what alot of ppl have already done and thats wanting to fight fighters that are superstars with bigger purse. Hopkins dont bring huge money fight that mayweather and pacquiao brings.
     
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  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    because people here play too many video games and think...well, if he fiught at 160, then 168 aint a problem....or catch weight of 172 against a light heavy shouldnt be a prob...even though, looking back at history...how many guys who started at welterweight, had any success at 168 or 175?
    too many idiots on here
    could sergio beat a 168 pound guy? maybe...but shouldnt be called a coward if he dont try..when he has had 4 or 5 fights ever at middle...and 45 fights or so at 154 or 147
     
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  3. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    I don't agree with the statement that Martinez wont fight bigger fighters, but him calling out those divisions below him does not help.

    Also, just because you're taller does not necessarily mean you are bigger.
     
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  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    splitting hairs now....bigger means, a guy that is a natural fighter at that division...while you have moved up from lower weights.....thus...barker being a bigger man
     
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  5. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    Dzin is 6'1 and taller, but he was NOT a natural fighter at middleweight. He was a light middleweight.
     
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  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Look at Marv feast on those little guys.
     
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  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Exactly where were hagler bashing for fighting light middleweight hearns and called out a retired smaller leonard?
     
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  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Hagler had beat everyone ranked in the top 10 at MW by the time he fought Hearns , Leonard, and Duran. Marvin is also 5'9" and walked around under 165 lbs.
     
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  9. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But it's alright to call PAC a coward because he won't fight him, right? :hat
     
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  10. kirk

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    I agree, bashing Martinez for wanting to fight Mayweather is absurd.

    I can understand the pac thing though, Pac is a small welter and martinez is a middleweight, that fight shouldnt happen.

    But Mayweather vs Martinez is a perfectly acceptable fight and martinez challenging him is completely fair.

    People act like Martinez has come down from light heavy or something, the dude is a 154lber fighting at middleweight.

    Hes recently fought

    Cintron
    Williamsx2
    Pavlik
    Dz
    Barker

    none of them are smaller then Martinez.... not sure wtf people are thinking.
     
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  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't think his height has much to do with anything. Marvin Hagler was a legitimate Middleweight who's greatest win is over a former Welterweight. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this. Historically the best Middleweight in the world has always met the best Welterweight in the world. Monzon/Napoles? Martinez is well in his rights to call for a fight with the likes of Pacquiao and Mayweather, who aren't ordinary fighters by any standard. He shouldn't be subjected to criticism. This is the way it has always been.
     
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  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    I think it's pretty obvious Martinez isn't big as he's made out to be. The jump from 160 to 168 is pretty major.
     
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  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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  14. PetethePrince

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    ... And Monzon.

    Not like this guy wasn't guilty of it either. :think

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  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Sounds slightly familiar. :lol:

    Didn't they have day in weigh ins at that time anyway? MWs were a little smaller back then.
     
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