The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    what test?:huh
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    That I know of boxing does not test fighters for PED's before fights, they test them right after the fights completion.

    Every fighter is tested for diseases weeks before a fight so that the commision approves of them fighting.
    During this test blood is drawn from the fighter, but its used specifically to test for disease not for PED's.

    If an athlete knows when he's going to be tested for PED's, he just goes off of them several days before so they wont show up in his urine sample.

    The important thing to a PED user is to be able to use his drugs during the more intense time frame of his training window.

    For example.....if a fighter trained for 10 weeks, he could very well be on using PED's for the first 8 weeks to help his body recover quickly from the abusive training he's putting his body through, and then totally go off of them the last two weeks before the fight so that when he tests for PED's after the fight, the traces of it are no longer in his body.

    The first 8 weeks of PED training have already put his body in peak physical condition, that he can carry that condition with him the last two weeks even while going off the PED's.

    Let me give you an example.
    Say you can run 3 miles in a time of 25 minutes.
    You try to better that time by training every day but are having trouble getting past that 25 minute time for the three miles.

    You then go on a PED regimen and find that you're times are improving every few days........
    Two or three weeks go by while you're training on a PED regimen and you find that you're now running 3 miles in 20 minutes.
    You've improved your time by 5 minutes in 3 weeks, a significant gain.

    You will find that you can go off your ped's for two weeks, and still have carried the condition you had aquired witht he help of PED's even weeks after you went off the PED's.

    Conditioning is aquired gradually not abruptly because you took PED's for one day.

    The same way you aquire conditioning through PED's, you lose it.
    You dont lose your conditioning abruptly because you stopped taking PED's for a couple of weeks, you lose it gradually over time.
    Thats why if you train for 8 weeks with the aid of PED's and train the last 2 weeks without taking a daily dose of PED's........not enough time has passed for you to lose the conditioning that you could only have aquired having used the drugs.

    .......now go off the PED's for several weeks and better even months, and you're slowly going to go back to your original time of running 3 miles in 25 minutes, and not being able to get much better than that without the aid of PED's.

    The point is, you lose the edge you gained by having used PED's gradually and over time, you just dont lose it abruptly because you stopped taking PED's for a few days.

    Now if Manny Pacquiao is currently on his PED regimen as we speak for the Marquez fight in November.......all he has to do to test clean right after the fight is stop using the PED's an X ammount of days before the fight.
    The conditioning he aquired while using the PED's is'nt going to be lost abruptly because he stopped taking PED's. Pacquiao will still be aided by that conditioning for several weeks after going off the drugs.......and yet on fight night he'll test clean.
     
  3. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    Seriously...

    NEVADA conducted their mandatory test, and reported that both parties are clean.

    USADA on the other hand is silent. Do they only report to Floyd now?
     
  4. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    *****s are saying that NSAC testing is insufficient. It only became insufficient when Pac was knocking on Mayweather's door.

    NSAC is more than sufficient to test fighters. Besides, Pac gets tested everytime he fights and Pac fights almost twice a year.

    Floyd fights once a year and enough to cycle off PEDS. Kinda funny.. Floyd shows all the signs of PEDS use whenever he's not fighting but *****s can't seem to look in to that subject. LOL
     
  5. CoDer

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    Pacman got acne on his face.

    He's guilty of using PED now.

    :lol:
     
  6. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What an IDIOT :lol:

    So for example, Floyd agreed to
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    7 Days cut off.

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    3 or 4 Days of using PEDs will transform Pac into a Superbeing with unbelievable strength. :lol:
     
  7. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are so ignorant of the facts of steroid use it's almost painful. :patsch
     
  8. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Damn dont you guys get sick of this ****. lol.
     
  9. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    What Facts do you have that makes Pac a roid user? If you cannot give a very specific and firm reason then shut the **** up.
     
  10. thawk888

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    :patsch Urine tests are not sufficient for the multitude of different ped's that are on the market. Sure if you're using your standard test prop or d/t-bol, but the cocktails and designers that these elite athletes are using are NOT going to show up in urine, if they do, someone f*&ked up, that's the point. Once blood testing is introduced, especially randomly, that makes the use on any type of cycle, almost impossible.
     
  11. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The question:

    His answer:
    I see a DUCK :lol:
     
  12. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never accused Pac of taking steroids, but some of you guys are so stupid when it comes to the science of them, that even if he was on them, you wouldn't know it unless he was walking around looking like Jay Cutler with bacne, bloated face and a bad disposition.
     
  13. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, and go **** yourself.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    This forum has been through this **** before.

    There are plenty of PED experts (victor Conte included) who believe both blood and urine should be tested.

    My post however was'nt about why test blood and urine.
    I replied to Ayala and gave him a rough draft on how PED's work.

    There are enough people that believe that you just pop a pill in your mouth or shoot a syringe into your bloodstream and all of a sudden you're the ped's make you superhuman.
    Obviously thats not how it happens. A ped user stil has to put the work in through intense training to reach a high level of conditioning.
    You'll be suprised how many *******ed Bozos dont know this fact.
     
  15. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    See these are just hypothetical reasons. Didn't I tell you to only respond when you have a Firm and solid facts to back up your claim?

    Again, Shut the **** up.
     
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