The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

**** you.:hi:

 

Devildoc is definitely one of them..atsch

 

You haven't answered my question.

When will Pac START and STOP using PEDs if he wants to have super human strength and at the same time appear clean on the post fight test?

 

Most cycles are 8 to 10 weeks dependent on dosage. Cycle dosage, pct (post cycle therapy), and individual body chemistry varies the time that it would be in your system. I know testosterone levels on a good pct can return to normal within 2 to 3 weeks, but if you're taking milder steroids like winstrol, var, etc. then it'll be a bit sooner.

 

So when Pac said he wants

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, it is still not enough to prove he's clean?

 

That being said, they are changing the parameters of screening all the time. There may be something they test for nowadays that could detect a slight variation that stays in your system longer. People just don't know, cause if they did, they'd be able to cheat it and keeping their methods secret is USADA's best weapon.

 

As I said, I have never accused Pacquiao of PED use.

I can tell you this, choosing the exact "place" where you take the test is a no no, you don't dictate time or place to these testing folks. Second, only the person or persons that are in charge of administering the cycle (ala Victor Conte, etc.) to the subject know the time line the subjects need to start testing clean. As I said, it varies with different people, so I don't know.

 

Since we're at it, I remember Floyd Sr once said: "If you have taken PEDs, even if you stop, your body will still benefit from it." Well, based on your post, Sr might be right.

Floyd only fights once a year, after his fight he goes on to a long vacation. What if Floyd is roiding during those times and in order to test clean, he stops roiding before his fight. Can you confidently say that Floyd is clean? If Floyd really wanted to clean up the sport and if he really wanted to show he's clean, why aren't they testing him during his vacations? OSDT is done year round right?

 

Well, to be honest, there is little to no benefit in using, or being "on cycle" while not training. Like the other poster said, it's not a magic bullet, you have to put in the work along with them.

And to be honest, floyd looks in shape year round, but he clearly doesn't have the definition he does when not in camp. You can visibly see the difference in his physique from the first episode of 24/7 after his blow up with his dad, to fight night. He got slightly bigger and much more defined, sounds like a good training camp.

Another give away of him not using, to me, is that Mayweathers weight barely moves. Trust me, on any type of anabolic steroid, you're going to gain weight. Especially if you're still working out, your body will pack on muscle even though you may not want it to.

Anavar is a mild steroid, that doesn't add a lot of water weight and bloated muscle, but it just doesn't have the benefit that a prize fighter would need. It's really more for achieving definition and striation. It does help slightly with cardiovascular performance though (originally prescribed to asthma patients), so I guess they could use it for that. You have to take a lot of it though, so I really don't see where a fighter would like doing that. It's an every day thing.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think steroid abuse is rampant in ALL sports, including boxing. But I don't think Pac or Floyd are on them. I could be wrong though.

 

Cyclist and distance runners use PED's for cardio.
The stereotype is that PED users use it to gain mass, but this just is'nt the reality of PED use.

A boxer can benefit by taking PED's by using them to focus on cardio or strenght.


To not just Bash on the PED user Pacquiao, Mayweather to me can be viewed as suspicious as well.

For a fighter that from the start of his career rarely put on any weight after a weighin, you have to wonder how he was able to physically push around two particular fighters in Ricky Hatton (beat Hatton at his own game, mauled him, sapped him of his energy before he punched him out with crisp counters)......and he took the fight straight to Mosley and backed Mosley down like it was Mayweather and not Mosley who entered the ring at 160 lbs.:think

Thats pretty suspicious to me. How does Mayweather happen to enter the ring and is all of the above, quicker, faster, and stronger than fighters naturally bigger than he is.
I'm talking about the Mosley fight. I picked Mayweather to embarrass Mosley, but even I was suprised that he was able to walk and physically push Mosley around.

 

http://www.nida.nih.gov/pdf/rrsteroi.pdf

 

thanks for the info. it is greatly appreciated. i do know that i had boxed in foxwwods 2 times and both times they took my urine before

 

How many days before?
.....and did they take a urine sample afterward?

The urine sample they took before may have been to test for disease.

 

What disease would they test with urine?

You are really trying so hard to be something?

Hepatitis, HIV are both tested with blood.

Unless they are testing for Chlamydia or gonorrhea, which is not tested in sports at all. The urine testing is the best method for PEDS testing.