Can Pac cope up with the speed of PBF???

Seriously look at this stuff. You guys REALLY Pac leaning in and to his right against FMJ? He is going to have his lead eye closed in 4. Counter hooks and straight rights all night long.

 

Pac hit JMM with that punch, it was one of the ones they discussed during the face off...only the great ones have game like that.

 

The right hand will be an obstacle as it always is for ALL of Floyd's opponents but if you honestly think PAC is going to be handicapped by round 4 based on counter hooks and lead rights from Floyd you are kidding only yourself. Hatton wasn't damaged, JMM wasn't damaged, Shane.....not damaged and Victor.....he was but he got clocked CLEAN and didn't see the punch coming. PAC will be alright if Floyd ever steps up to make the fight happen. It won't be easy for either guy but I think the styles match up favors PAC...slightly.

 

The fastest fighter Pac has fought is Cotto or possibly Mosley. I think PBF will handle the speed factor easier than Pac. That said, Pac's chief sparring partner is probably the fastest JWW/WW in boxing right now, Khan.

 

Yes he will. As you stated, the straight right WILL connect repeatedly. This is not about other fights unless you keep the boundaries of this discussion to skin types and their reaction to damage. Pac's skin welts EXTREMELY easily. He will also be easy to find for this latest incarnation of offensive minded Mayweather. Clottey barely punched and look what he did to Pac's face?

Your examples are flawed:

Hatton - When has he ever cut up?
JMM - FMJ never engaged to do damage
Shane - African American with tougher skin, but was welting.
Victor Ortiz - Prime example

What are you talking about "got clocked clean"? Victor was swelling from an accumulation of punches not one punch. I am not sure if I understand why you are laughing.

The style match up doesn't favor Pac in any way. He isn't faster, smarter, and is screwed in reach. Pac will be handled. If JMM can clock the guy it will be a nightmare to face FMJ.

 

Good call, but their respective accuracies are near polar opposites

 

It will connect...but most won't be clean as PAC is fast and has great reflexes...plus has the footwork to get in and out before you know it. Floyd's not a heavy hitter...his opponents rarely ever get cut or damaged to where they can't see. Just becuase it's PAC doesn't mean that this will change...it will only mean it will be harder for Floyd to score points to get a distance win.

Ricky's skin welts far more quickly than PACs....so does JMM and DLH's. PAC isn't easy to hit and Floyd won't be as aggressive with PAC as he was with Ortiz. And the success Ortiz had with the straight left and right hook will be multiplied by Manny who is by far a more superior southpaw in every area than Victor.

Ricky use to get cut up ALL the time in his fights....He got some plastic surgery to help but ultimately he's cut prone.

JMM was hit numerous times by clean shots from Floyd... Are you saying that Floyd wasn't able to hit Juan in their fight at 146?

Shane welted FAR more in his fight with Manny than with Floyd.

Victor....he was tagged but the final right hand and hook combo was what caused his face to look like it did post fight. His face was NOT like that before that last combo. You can see it during the hugging and kissing scene that victor was only red and slightly puffy...after the two piece his eye was damn near shut.

PAC is favored based on being a pressure fighter, relentless pressure, equal talent in speed, reflexes and athletic ability....but is more powerful and has the southpaw stance that gives Floyd trouble. Not to mention the odd angles Manny throws his punches.

There's plenty of elements that favor PAC in this fight. ....and there's a lot that favor Floyd. Tough fight but I think Manny pulls out the win.

 

Dude seriously, YDKSAB.

The connects will be clean. Stop with the "heavy hitter" nonsense. It has nothing to do with heavy hitting. It has everything to do with the response of Pac's skin. Again, look at the end of the Clottey fight. You saying Clottey is a "heavy hitter"?

Pac's footwork isn't great. If it was he would have been able to cut off Mosley. Pac looks great due to who they pick for him to face. Limited come forward guys. Lately those coming off of brutal losses. As long as Pac sticks to script? He will look good.

BS. Victor was noticeably lumped up staggered, and almost stopped by round 4. The last combo didn't do it because if you actually looked at the shot you see it landed LOW on the face (jaw line) not high on the eye like "in fight" exchanges do due to the chin being down.

Pac isn't favored by anyone who knows Boxing. Since when has Pac been a pressure fighter? Who has he pressured? He has only fought limited come forward fighters and the one fighter with a SLIGHTLY more complex style shredded his face barely punching.

Stop with the "Southpaws give Mayweather trouble nonsense." Says who? Ortiz? Judah? Mitchell? Corley? :huh STFU. Fast slick fighters give Mayweather problems. No more. No less. Pac is decently fast, but not slick.

 

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As you can see, Ortiz's eye WAS closing up before the KO punch

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Those right hands were short and weak as hell! Void had to land a super man punch on a defenseless Ortiz to KO him! Talk about lame..

 

He still does not have much power!!!!!

It took him two sucker pucnhes to KO Ortiz. Sucker pounch is when the opponent was not even looking.

He hit Hoya, Mosley, multiple times without even close to knocking down both.

It does not change the fact that Baldomir is as slow as molasses. Do you run from a slow puncher or from a power puncher?

 

So, closing one's eye means more power?

 

It's obvious I know a whole hell of a lot more than you do about boxing and it's not even close. Skin integrity is real but you are a fool if you think that Floyd will all the sudden be a fighter who busts up his opponents. He's a sharp accurate puncher...but he's never going to be on that damages his opponents like PAC does. Josh landed a few good shots on PAC and he swelled up a little...it happens. But his eye wasn't shut...he wasn't bruised or bloodied. Get a grip kid.

PAC's Footwork is great...offensively there are few who can match his foot work. For you to question it only exposes your lack of boxing knowledge. PAC can't cut off the ring from a man who is a future Hall of famer who is looking to survive. Shane was RUNNING...not boxing.

If you say PAC looks great based on who they pick....then you can say the exact same thing about Floyd..... You're silly man. As long as Floyd sticks to his script and avoids PAC he'll continue to look good.:roll:

Vic wasn't almost stopped in round 4 before the butts kid...and he wasn't "LUMPED" up...he was red and showed slight swelling.... Go watch the fight...I won't embarrass you by posting it.:rofl

So you are saying PAC's only faced LIMITED, COME FORWARD FIGHTERS and he's not really a great fighter?:rofl

PAC is favored by a lot of people....those who know boxing and those who don't. It's based on what he's done, who he's done it against and how he performed. Don't get it twisted...PAC is a true great that doesn't come round that often.

PAC is a pressure style but it's INTELLIGENT pressure..he's always working but he's in and out...left and right...using lateral movemntn and setting up his offense. Floyd knows he's got a handful if he ever gets the balls to step up and fight PAC. But as a champion I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he will some day. But I'm not holding my breath.

Southpaws have been the style that presents Floyd with the most issues period. If you know boxing you'd know why based on Floyd's style. I'm not here to school you but I'll learn you a thing or two.:hey You just need to clean your slate so progress can be made.