Froch, "I felt Hopkins beat calzaghe"

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  1. Steffan

    Steffan Fe Godwn Ni Eto Full Member

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    Because he retired. Kinda like saying if Floyd Mayweather beats up my nextdoor neighbour so easy why doesnt he fight him :patsch
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hey ***** why dont you try and give a sensible answer to these facts. I dont want to put you in the bottle job catagory :oops:

    Why dont you explain which part of that poster is drivel :lol:. Oh thats right, you cant because I gave over facts.
    Live with the facts doylexxx and stop being a *****
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    I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
    2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
    3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
    4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
    5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
    a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
    b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
    c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
    d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
    e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
    f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
    g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
    h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
    i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

    I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

    6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
    7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
    8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
    9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




    Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
    Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
    Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.
    People try and make out that Hopkins landed all of these odd big shots of note. Other than the knockdown which wasnt a massive punch but just caught Calzaghe square on and the punch at the end of round 7 made to look worse by an illegal headbutt, what are all of these other big punches? Calzaghe landed more telling shots overall and won round 7.

    What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.[/quote]

    I felt Calzaghe won a few more rounds but picked these rounds out which I felt were clear, and nobody could answer this :lol:

    No a majority didnt. After the fight, many declared Hopkins a shot loser, but now he has scored a good win, want to rewrite history. :patsch

     
  3. Swollen Liver

    Swollen Liver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jealous of Calzaghe Mr.Froch? You want to lure Calzaghe into something? Fine, maybe it was a bit controversial BUT just imagine the way B-Hop would dismantle Froch. Someone needs to shut that no skills Froch for good. Dirrell did it but he got robbed.
     
  4. fortysixando

    fortysixando Active Member Full Member

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    i certainly did.made froch miss and look what he is....a twat
     
  5. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here are some solid facts
    1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 `SLAPS - not real punches this is pro boxing not ams
    2. Bhop landed harder shots and had Joe down
    3. All round punch percentages dont take into account difference between a touching slap or a proper punch.
    4. Calzaghe slapped more in the rounds, isnt this the same as the other drivel?
    5. Way to much drivel in here against a judge, Giampa that scored large for Joe is hardly a bastion of fairness didnt he scrore forman Schulz ?

    6. Calzaghe avoided America of his own free will for years to fight easy at home fights nobodys choice but his, Joe was also a weight class ahead of Bhop the majority if his entire career.
    7. Roy Jones and Taylor got unanimous decisions agaisnt Bhop , something Joe was not capable of due to the closeness of the fight that has people divided.
    8. All 3 didnt score for Joe as above mentions.
    9. Calzaghe landed SLAPS and never had hopkins hurt

    Calzaghe for all his slaps landing has the most pathetic set of "stoppages" ever seen (fat refs flaying arms for no reason)

    He is also the only peron fighting the shot to **** Jones that didnt manage to KO him, again proving his touches and slaps dont amount to much except numbers
     
  6. HooliganCentral

    HooliganCentral England Boys.Always First Full Member

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    Calzaghe beat Hopkins VERY easily. Hopkins didn't win a round after the third. Froch said that ages ago when he was trying to goad Joe to fight him.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Once again doylexxx you are completely wrong. Alot of what you have produced are not facts but what you would like to be the case
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    It was a close fight but in retrospect, Joe was more out of his prime than Hopkins was so it just goes to show that whether you love him or hate him, Joe was a great fighter.

    Hopkins pretty much dominated everyone after that as further proof.
     
  9. Baddogbot

    Baddogbot New Member Full Member

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    ^
    This.
     
  10. Baddogbot

    Baddogbot New Member Full Member

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    ^
    And also this.
     
  11. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Just ****ing...WOW! You're a sad **** if you believe Haye beat Wlad, no disrespect.
     
  12. Baddogbot

    Baddogbot New Member Full Member

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    And this also as well!
     
  13. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I honestly just cannot score this fight for Calzaghe even if i give him every benefit of the doubt.
    I know Hopkins output was low but at least he was hitting accuracy and with power.

    Suppose i could score this for Joe but only if i score punches hitting gloves and air.
     
  14. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    No ****, and so did everyone else who understands the judging scoring criteria.
     
  15. RustBelt

    RustBelt The Pride Of Youngstown Full Member

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    I thought B-Hop Was robbed myself!