James Toney open training in Moscow

He is 5ft9, he's got average reach, average weight, good handspeed but not a Roy Jones Jr or Pacquiao, and he does not have above average punching power.

So I don't know what you are talking about with him. Skillwise yes, but Winky Wright was never the superior athlete but also won on skill against guys like Shane Mosley who are the superior athletes.

 

Oh. Well **** him then.

 

Fight is in 4 weeks, I guess Toney can make the weight if he's disciplined.

 

There's a difference between being a natural athlete and being a natural fighter.

Natural athletes: Jones, Wlad

Natural fighters: Toney, Vitali

All four use their gifts to excel at boxing. But they're not the same gifts.

 

Cool video

 

James looks really good, you can see his whole face is different after losing forty pounds, looks ten years younger.

Still, I hope he tries to lose a bit more as the fight gets closer. He hasn't had to make weight in a long time and it's not as easy to drain ten plus pound when you're over forty and still recover.

Would love to see him win here. Then a fight with Tarver or Huck or something like that. He's the last master of his style, it's hard to imagine seeing another. Unless Floyd fights till he's 45 (loses his super reflexes), and then you'll see him fighting more like James.

 

After Cunninghams defeat. Lebedev is the best CW out there.. Got robbed against Huck, would probably beat Hernandez and the other guys..

 

Toney's gonna get his ass kicked, prime toney may have won with lebedev but now he just gonna get his ass whooped nothing more.

 

Toney will beat Lebedev, wide UD12. I'm surprised not to see the IBA cruiserweight title on the line to make him a simultaneous two-weight world champion...
As for the weight, if he really is 211 i reckon he can lose the rest come fight night but i wouldn't be surprised to see him come in slightly over - say 205.

 

His core is arguably in great shape, its the layers of fat around the core that is the problem.

He could have abs of raw steel underneath all that flab.

People have to realise that even at 200 lbs, hes probably still going to be flabby.

Remember that this guy is shorter than Amir Khan.

 

Anything can happen in the sport of boxing. Thereof I think Lebedev is going to stop Toney by accumulation of power punches. Anybody who thinks it will be a walk in the park for Toney is in for a rude awakening. Anyone who followed Lebedev as a boxer should know that his not really much of a technician but a brawler. Similar to Jirov but with more power and better defence.

 

Toney is in helluva shape this fight is on my birthday i am thinking of flying off from the uk but just not sure how safe mother russia is.
but either way lights out by brutal ko

 

It seems the slimmer toney gets his speech gets better..all that extra blubber must of been slowing down his brain!

 

Are you kidding? You don't know why that happened?

Montell Griffin was a MD and controversial. RJJ embarrassed Tony because RJJ was seriously one of the most amazing physical talents to EVER grace Boxing. Whatever level JT was on? RJJ was on a completely different planet in the physical attribute department. Same reason why RJJ beat the brakes off of Griffin.

Dude seriously, everything about JT is instinct. You can't teach a guy that stuff. Yes it is athleticism. The dude, unlike a lot of "fighters" was a multi sport pure athlete.

Tony is nothing like FMJ. FMJ is a dedicated technician. Toney is a natural. He would be doing the same crap in a night club parking lot.