Does Martinez's team think we're stupid?

The oldest champ in history and a LHW just offered him a fight at a catchweight and he ran away throwing every excuse in the book. ****ing coward.

I would also add he isn't getting ****ing 3 or 5 million fighting floyd or manny, he'd probably get no more than the 1.5 mil that Ortiz got, and Ortiz is far more marketable than Sergio.

 

Poor kid, no response.

168 = the riskiest division with paydays of around $1.5 million for the top fights. Why the **** would anyone want to campaign there if they were interested in money?

 

Bernard is a great champion but he doesnt bring in money like manny or floyd.

I believe Ortiz got 2.5 million? Im sure Sergio would get atleast 3 million.. He certainly would be a bigger threat to floyd than ortiz.

 

Wasn't worth repsonding to. All you did was a kiss ass post of guys at 168. :roll:

Point remains, no matter what Martinez says about guys at WW, or what you think of him wanting to fight May or Pac, that doesn't change the fact he's TOO small for 168. But by all means, cloud the topic with how good 168 is, as if that's the point.:tired

 

Ortiz had a huge fanbase and an actual title, no way Sergio gets what Ortiz got, that is just basic business, he has no leverage, he'll probably end up making the same amount of money fighting B-Hop as he would fighting the WWs.

 

:roll: Yes, I was especially disguested when he picked on "Tiny" Paul Williams after winning the belt against Pavlik.

 

Paul Williams isn't and never was a MW, so what is your point, neither was Serhiy, we have him fighting Barker being embarassed and then getting lucky that he was able to rupture his eardrum and end the fight.

Now he is begging to fight some WWs and a shot Cotto at 154.

 

Williams had fought at middleweight more timez than Martinez at the time of both their fights. Beyond that absolutely everyone wanted that rematch; acting like Martinez just simply chose to pick on poor widdle Paul has no basis whatsoever in reality. Dzinziruk was forced on him by HBO in exchange for the Bradley-Alexander fight, but I've already explained that to you. And if Martinez looked poor against Barker, I'd love to hear your take on Pirog-Maciel (you know, the undersized junior middleweight who had Pirog far more hurt than Martinez ever was at any point against Barker).

 

Mayweather and Pacquiao have both won world titles at 154 where Martinez also fought...

Sergio hasn't even been to 168 never mind 170/175...

 

If Sergio is a SMALL MW. Then TYSON Was a MIDGET HW :deal

 

Paul Williams still is not a MW fighter, he is a 147/154 fighter.

Rematch is nice, still irrelevant to what I'm saying.

Again instead of even challenging relevant 160 fighters he fights another blown up 154 fighter instead, he fights Barker gets embarassed now he is really looking at cashing out, ignoring all the fights at 160. As for Maciel we saw the issue was his neck, he has corrected the issue and looked like he was back in form fighting Gennedy. I know it hurts your feelings that ***** Martinez is being seen for what he is but it is what it is.

 

Reading you simply make up **** ("Martinez is ducking Angulo, Quillin, and Jacobs" ) doesn't hurt my feelings, it hurts my brain. Williams weighed one pound less than Martinez when they fought, so he was essentially just as much or just as little of a middleweight as Martinez. Beyond that, Williams probably would have defeated every other beltholder in the division that night.

I wouldn't know if the neck explains Pirog's "embarrassing" performance against Maciel because I don't really think Martirosyan is much better than Maciel anyway. We can just as easily conveniently write off Martinez's "embarrassing" performance too; the reason he didn't look as good was because he wasn't as focused on the fight at hand (though at least Martinez never had to run and hold in his embarrassing performance and actually got the KO against a bigger opponent, something Pirog failed to do against the smaller Maciel). Anyway, both Martirosyan and Maciel are severely undersized and neither was anything close to a top 10 middleweight. You can bash Barker all you want but the thing is he's better than anyone on Pirog's resume with the possible exception of Janutah, who was past his best days anyway when they fought.

 

Yeah I don't fault Sergio for his recent opposition. P Dub 2 needed to happen and Pavlik was a good and best choice open. Sergio was almost forced to fight Dzinziruik, but he was a very good opponent anyways.
Barker turned out to be good, but I could see why people would oppose that though

 

He was a small HW. And? :huh

 

Well If Junior got paid to fight JMM @ 146 then Why cant sergio get paid to fight floyd @ 154!