Is Floyd Mayweather Jr. a top-10 ATG?

Completely forgot about RJJ, he slots in around the 25. And yes, Duran certainly above Ali and Louis. I've already explained why I have Duran ahead of Ali on the thread that was on here a few weeks ago which I said:

Right, so why do i rate Duran above Ali. First thing here, I think Duran is the most skilled boxer to ever lace on the gloves. His come forward agressive stye was made all the more intimidating by his 'hands of stone'. The key here, however, is his subtle defensive masterclass he often put on while coming forward. A slight turn of the head when an opponent threw a shot, slighting stepping back/forward half a foot, often meant opponents didnt land cleanly on him. He was as rough as they come, but was no slugger. His infighting was superb, defensive underrated, and power in both hands with a chin to match. So, lets look at his record. Firstly, if you want to see Duran at his best, I suggest everyone watches him vs Carlos Palomino. for me, it was his best ever performance, a real clinic and a treat to watch.

At LW, he had notable wins over the underrated Marcel (who was favourite going in with Duran who was only 16-0 at the time), Estaban (twice) the Viruet brothers, Bizzarro, Mamby, Lampkin, Kobyashi and the very very good Buchanan. Then, he steps up in wieght to defeat the aforemented Palomino, before possibly the greatest win of all time against a prime leonard. Make no mistake, he was 72-1-0 in his prime for a reason. A former undisputed LW champion then steps up against the bigger guys in Hearns (top 5 154 lb-er) Benetiz (154), he ran Hagler close at 160 (if it was a 12 round fight, he probably gets the nod), destroys Davey Moore at 154, and wins a version of the middleweight world title against Barkely (again, not bad for a guy who started at 120lbs and was a prime 135 lber). Yes he lost to Laing, Wilfred and was blown away by Tommy (tommy beats him 10/10 due to styles), but he more than held his own against one of the great MWs (who had ruled for 7 years), and proved his class when we beat Barkley when he was completely shot.

Now, Ali was Ali, and had very very good wins (which helps him pip Joe Louis as my number 1 HW). Wins over Foreman, Norton, Liston, Frazier (I discount the Archie Moore win due to hi being shot to ****, but we can include it if you want), which is an exceptional resume by any standards. A brash, underrated hitting, quick heavyweight with one of the great chins ever, but for me, Duran nicks it in terms of ability.

While Ali/Clay is favourible against pretty much every other HW, Duran more than holds his own against every other LW, and gets the better of Pea, Benny and Gains over a 3 fight trilogy. His overrall come forward style is accompanied with hands of stone and underrated defensive ability. He has the better single win on his resume (Leonard rather than the Thriller/The Rumble take your pick). There was just something very very special about Roberto. Ali was awesome, but Duran is ahead of him in my p4p rankings.

And yes, Pea above Leonard.

If your history is good enough to argue with me, by all means do so as I'm open to change your opinion. Don't just write 'go **** yourself' because it makes you look stupid. By all means, give us your top 30

 

fair enough. Just messin brah. :good

 

A bullish Top 30.

 

Right behind PAC, Molsey and Margo

 

:good

By all means everyone, post your own. If you can :yep

 

1. SRR
2. Dennis Bostov
3. Ali
4. Jim Corbett
5. Robert Allen
6. Michael Dokes
7. Pacquiao
8. Benny Leonard
9. Phillip Public Holiday
10. Tyson Furry

 

Nope...no active fighter is.:deal

 

Fact: There are at least 18 certified ******s at ESB!