how formidable a finisher was joe calaghe

So if he was not shot and not prime, how far away from his prime was he?Enough for Calzaghes victory to be minimized?

After Calzaghe handed Euband his ass, the fella moved up in weight and fough a competivite fight with Carl Thompson - the man who years later did what Wlad could not: KO'd Haye. This suggest Eubank still was a force to reckon with.

People love to hate on Calzaghe. But even though the man looked like a waiter and slapped his punches like a girl, facing him in the ring was no walk in the park. Some boxing fans cant accept this, so they try every angle.

 

Come on.

When Eubank fought Calzaghe he had only lost twice. He was 31, and afterwards he moved up in weight and fought a competitive fight against Carl Thompson.

Give it some thought.

 

Calzaghe UD12 Eubank IMO is a good win, but anyone who see's it as a great win needs to look at the facts:-

1. Eubank came out of retirement
2. Eubank was training to fight at LHW
3. Eubank was training to fight Mark Prince (bum) but then got into the ring with Calzaghe (future HOF'er)
4. Eubank had only 2 weeks notice to fight Calzaghe. Calzaghe also had 2 weeks notice to fight Eubank but Calzaghe was training for a tougher opponent (Collins) anyway.
5. Eubanks 2 fights pre Calzaghe and 2 fights post Calzaghe were at a weight higher than SMW.
6. Eubank best wins were early 90.

Calzaghe looked dizzy at the end man. Eubank landed a solid shot just before the final bell.

the fella moved to a weight that suited him more

Competitivie at a weight that suited him more, and against a fighter who was Calzaghe's lesser.

Eubank was a force to be reackoned with amongst Carl Thompson. Thats what that suggests.

And because Wlad couldnt KO Haye, dont mean **** in this discussion man.

:good Calzaghe was definatley a tough opponent.

 

Did you watch Eubank against Thompson?

 

I think Eubank was supposed to fight at cruiser on that card originally and had to severley take off weight close to the fight

 

To differ a good win from a great feels very subjective. I dont mind either opinion. But some of your points seems debatable.

1. Sure, but that does not make him an old geezer. If he was 31 years old, it seems of little importence that he had taken some time off. Many elite boxers does not even believe in ring rust. Do you?

2. Okay. Explain why it matters as long he was back in the gym. You focus on the fast weight loss here?

3. Eubank was a true pro. As such you can rest assured that he always prepared at the best of his ability, no mather who he was supposed to face. No boxer wants to suffer the fate of getting KO'd by a bum, because they took the guy lightly.

4. See point three.

5. If Eubank was not a natural SMW, why did he fight so much at that weight? :huh

6. Well, you stop winning when you step into the ring with the greatest slapper of all times. That is no proof of beeing shot or past it.

Fine, fine. Calzaghe was unable to school him. It was a clear win, but not more.

Where he could make more money. If he would have been a natural CW, he would have spent more of his career there.

See my last answer. And everyone is second to the greates slapper of all times.

Guess you are right about that.

 

Calzaghe can be critizised for beeing a hypocrite when he went after Jones late in his career, rather then fighting up and coming dangerous opponents.

But the Chris Eubank angle just holds no water. Okay, so Eubank took a lot of weight off. Thats no helping out. But he fought many of his fights at SMW so the weight class must have been fairly natural and healthy for him. Saying Calzaghe won due to Eubanks weight loss seems like speculation.

 

Eubank was training for a LHW fight that night but was asked 2 weeks before the fight if he wanted the WBO SMW Title shot. No great shakes there. Many fighters take off weight just before a fight and Eubank had 2 weeks notice. Calzaghe was around 14 stone the week of his last fight with R Jones

 

Joe = ATG

 

The question was

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. Not who he did or didnt knock out.

Now Calzaghe didnt have Kessler badly hurt to go for the finish but if he had someone hurt he would go for it.
When Calzaghe had put down Woodhall and had him hurt, he went for the finish
When Calzaghe had put down Mitchell and had him hurt, he went for the finish
When Calzaghe had put down Veit and had him hurt, he went for the finish
When Calzaghe had put down Sobot in the rematch and had him hurt, he went for the finish.
Now when you look at the last few punches of those fights the stoppages can look odd if you are looking to pick holes, but go back a minute or so in each and they are all legit stoppages if not clean KOs.

People question the Manfredo stoppage, as did I. But Manfredo was doing little, and looked to have been slightly hurt from a body shot, still regardless of if anyone thinks the stoppage was good or not. Calzaghe went for the finish when his opponent seemed hurt.

Fact is when Calzaghe had his opponent looking hurt and went for the finish, he often achieved it. He didnt against Lacy but he did go for it.

P.S. I would put the Woodhall win above the Brewer win

 

He will be for always the WHITE BOY who made HOP act like a ***** !:hey