Frank Bruno vs. George Foreman in 1991

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  1. The Mongoose

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    -:huh Odd conclusion. Stewart was a minor alphabet contender who padded his record with KOs and cashed out in big fights to the elite. Sound like anybody familiar? Sure, you can split hairs on the degree of padding, but at the end of the day, what's the difference?

    -All of this is getting irrelevant, yes, Moorer/Foreman is one of the worst one sided beatings I've seen a HW comeback from to win. The point is Foreman is not going to get bombed out by Bruno like the injured , passive, and out of shape Coetzee was, he's going to be in this fight all night, applying slug pressure, and Bruno can't stay on his toes forever. Old Foreman is better than the Coetzee who faced Bruno...you've twisted and reached, but you aren't changing that.

    I honestly don't think anybody is going to KO old George, probably beat the **** out of him, but they aren't stopping him. Holyfield hit him with like 30 or 40 unanswered punches to the head in Round 7 I think...I don't care, if Holyfield is the pussiest puncher on earth, which we know he had above average power anyway, that is impressive.
     
  2. choklab

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    old George was tough, I will give him that, being totally honest he was always dependable to see things through, always landed too. He just did not KO higher end heavyweights- even the ones others could KO, I know bruno and old George are not that far apart its just we cant bank on foreman winning by a KO when he never scored them at that level against a big man. The record shows that the rule of old George was If he cant KO them he’s not winning. He’s not knocking out frank because he is not setting the kind of pace to gas frank out, his strength and weight is proven to be less overwhelming against good big men. The record proves that as an older man this edge was what he always needed to win.
     
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    This is a fine focused post, and I can respect your opinion here.

    I'm not hung up on the size issue though. Moorer was only an inch shorter than Bruno at a strong 6'2" and while not as broad he had high set shoulders and freaky long arms for a 78 inch wingspan. He was not overly muscular with a thin waist like Bruno but was still a solid decent conditioned 220ish. Moorer was also a much better mover, combination puncher, and overall better boxer than Bruno, while bringing similar vulnerabilities.
     
  4. lefthook31

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    Moorer wasnt much better of a mover, but he was by a little bit. Moorer also could fight back a little better whereas Frank would look to hold.
     
  5. choklab

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    I liked moorer better than mike Spinks, he had a great skill set and was very sharp. initially moorer had a very exciting run as a HW. unlike Spinks he paid his dues in the division and went 12-0 against fair heavyweights before facing the champion. I enjoyed his slugfest with Stewart and Burt cooper but the knockdowns against big foot and cooper were a worry for a manufactured HW who put on 40lb in 3 months to become one initially.

    That obviously was the trade off in carrying all that enhanced weight ... he still only had a 175lb chin. in his last fight before facing holyfeild moorer went 10rounds with mike Evans he won every moment of the fight but could not knock him out. 15 months later after his career best win Evans was Kod in 2 rounds by frank bruno.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    :nono

    Mike Evans was KOed by Bruno two years and 30lbs later. You have to look at the whole picture to get the whole story.
     
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    Neither man was a great mover, but I think Moorer had more educated feet if that makes sense.
     
  8. choklab

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    Journeyman Mike Evans was Knocked out by frank Bruno 15 months later and coming off a career best KO win over aldison rodriges in brazil 74 days before fighting Frank. He was 22lb heavier but going against moorer evans did not have that kind of win behind him, back then he was only beating comeback chuck gardner and dan murphy so you could argue Bruno beat a better evans than moorer did but that would just be petty.:good
     
  9. lefthook31

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    Yeah I agree. Bruno was a bit robotic and predictable in his and thats why he had trouble making it the distance by punchers.
     
  10. choklab

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    moorer would fight back if he could but he could not help going over. he was decked a lot of times at HW. He never got past a puncher and a fair puncher had a chance to deck him. Bruno was better than a fair puncher and a whole lot stronger. the guy was a genuine powerhouse.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    Actually 26 lbs. and....

    How about Big George KOing a fit 219 lb Rodrigues 5 years prior when he was still hanging around the Ring's top 10 and it actually meant something? I guess Foreman should have been fighting the real challenges like Bugner, Page, and Bey?

    yeeesh, give it up.
     
  12. lefthook31

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    He beat Cooper
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    A game Bert Cooper is no middle aged Joe Bugner.

    While Moorer and Foreman were fighting guys like Cooper, Bruno and Bugner was taking out the avoided fighters nobody wanted a part of.

    :rasta (too bad they don't have a bong emoticon)
     
  14. choklab

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    haha, yes, I knew I had that one coming! :good

    it meant more then but even more when evander did it. Im not big on rodrigues anyway a lot of guys beat him in brazil but he kept getting hometown decisions, I think johnny nelson and bones smith got ripped off against him but evans went over to brazil and KOd him at home. A good win for a guy like evans. I just wonder why prime moorer didnt Knock evans out when frank did..
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    26 pounds!


    He went the distance with Corrie Sanders too when he wasn't a 270 lb whale.