The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

How about you just provide the man with some info. People provide you with info and you can't do the same. Don't be like that Lance.

 

Dude.......Pac never outright turned down Floyds special needs... He just wanted to negotiate a cut off which wouldn't allow Floyd complete control in the negotiation process.

Had Pac accused Floyd and then demanded PSDT "PAC Style Drug Testing" .....:yep Floyd would have "outright" turned down the fight and everyone would be claiming Pac ducked Floyd....but of course that's not reality....people say Floyd ducked Pac because it looks, acts, talks and walks like a fukin duck!

 

How the hell did Floyd duck Pac when Floyd is the one who agreed to do everything that Team Pac wanted?

 

Whole articles are fabricated or certain sections cut off on here, it's a reason people say source or STFU.

 

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I always know you guys are going to twist what I say when you begin to paraphrase. The catchweight argument has NOTHING to di with drug testnig anyway, not sure why you act as if they are similar here. Well, I know why, you think you have some valid point. You don't.

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You see, when Floyd was given pretty much the instructions on HOW to make this happen, by talking to the NSAC to add the test Floyd want, WHICH arum said they would abide by. Yet Floyd did NO SUCH THING. He was pretty much told by Kizer they would look into it. And yet, Floyd didn't even try that. WOnder why? Maybe because then there would be NO MORE ROADBLOCK. :shock:

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Look.....there's been contradictions on both sides but far more contradictions have been made on Floyd's end than PACs...and had Floyd went about this in a more respectful and responsible manner he could have gotten much more productive results in getting the fight done. Out the gate Floyd came at an angle that is automatically counter productive and he knows that.....so does anyone else who has paid attention and doesn't have an overwhelming urge to defend Floyd no matter what the situation is. There's blame on both sides but Floyds burning his end a lot faster than Manny.

 

I think its a fair point. Floyd had never fought a guy who was able to move-up in weight and maintain his speed while increasing his durability and punching power. So if he'd never fought anyone like that before why should he have asked for it before?

On the flip side there's a pretty big part of Floyd's arguement that no one ever really takes issue with and I think it should be questioned more. Thats the idea that manny all of a sudden got great over night....thats bs Manny all of a sudden got popular overnight but the man was a world champion at 19 years old. And that at the time was based mainly off of physical abilty and tenacity. Long before he hooked up with one of the best trainers in the world. So if you want to be fair about it you could easily argue that Manny always had it in him to be the great fighter he is today but his record doesn't show it. He had to fight his way off the streets of a third world country. HE had to take fights he shouldn't have taken (at weights' he could no longer make), and he had to prove himself before he could work with the best trainers. So why shouldn`t it have taken Manny longer to become the finished article?

 

Gotten much more productive results? Dude Team Pacquiao agreed to do the testing and backed out and wanted cutoffs. Arum wanted to walk away. They even lied at first saying that there was no 14 day window proposed. Roach said "NO PROBLEM, GIVE HIM WHATEVER HE WANTS. MY FIGHTER IS CLEAN."
At the end of the day Floyd agreed to what Team Pacquiao wanted. Team Pacquiao agreed to do the testing with no cut offs and then backed out and wanted cut offs. Why is that?

 

You mean the weight penalty stipulation? That one demand came after the accusations and FSDT demands and in all honesty just as ridiculous. It was a weak ass attempt to play mental games that Floyd was easily winning at that time......focus was on Pac....people began to question and the heat was on Pac.....that was before Floyd began to do himself in and the whole thing began to backfire...

Everything else like weight, purse, gloves and venue..ect.. all were mutually agreed to by BOTH parties. The only obstacle was the one Floyd produced as a byproduct of the accusations he's never supported.

 

Floyd could have asked for more money but he didn't. Floyd himself even said that all he wants is for both fighter to random blood and urine testing with no cut offs and we have a fight. Why did Team Pacquiao agree and then pull out and ask for cut offs?

 

Exactly.

 

Big question is why is there soooo many stances from team Pac? Maybe KnuckleUP can shed light on that...? What's the issue Knuckle? Is it the cutoff, Floyd coming at him with accusations, USADA, NSAC is completely capable of doing the testing, he's weakened by blood? What's the reason he won't agree again?

edit: LOL just realized dude's name is Knuckle Up not head. Fixed!

 

Dude maybe we are just cut from a different cloth. Most Pacquiao fans say he doesn't have to bow down to Floyd. Its not about that. If anyone accused me or had the feeling I was a dirty fighter and all I had to do was take random testing while in training then I am all for it. Plus I am getting 50 million for the fight and getting the chance to bash Floyd ****ing face in. People are either just haters of Floyd or they are lying to themselves.

 

What mental games? I still don't get how people act like Floyd knew Manny was gonna have a problem with some damn drug test. That had to be like a 1 in a million kind of chance. I can't think of another fighter in history that would have an issue with some simple drug testing. Especially when a multi-million dollar paycheck is on the line. Arum is at work here. I think he's the only one playing games.

 

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