The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Would you do the testing if you were in Manny's position?
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PAC didn't agree to anything before actual negotiations took place. When "ACTUAL" negotiations began the cut offs were specified. Again....Floyd created the problem... NOT PAC.

    PAC wanted a cut off for the obvious reason...not wanting to have blood drawn on the day of the fight....and for the stance of not wanting to let Floyd dictate the negotiation process and end up with a mental victory over PAC even before the sound of the first bell.
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La7RAg1shM0&feature=related[/ame] Press play and at 9 secs Roach says it all dude. "Since we accepted that"
     
  4. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I was PAC:verysad.....If I was Victor Ortiz....Shane Mosley or any other boxer not in PAC's position I might have based purely on the financial aspect of fighting someone like Floyd.... But PAC brings his own currency to any fight based on his status in the sport.
     
  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He asked for like 30 or 24 days out, big difference from ON the day of the fight... They've NEVER asked for only the day of the fight to not take the test, it's always been a cutoff of a week or longer. Why if they only don't want to on the day of the fight?

    Also, didn't Pac dictate the terms on his own weight penalty stipulation? So it's okay for him to have a mental victory, but not Mayweather?
     
  6. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Would you do the testing or not? Do you not see how bad Floyd would look if Manny did the test, passed them and whipped Floyd's ass? Its not about status. Its about getting paid, whipping ass and showing the world that you are a clean fighter despite what anyone says and you prove by any means. I would take any test to prove I am clean and the person asking me for the test will pay for it in the ring.
     
  7. KnuckleUp99

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    You know how many "Floyd" clips there are on youtube purely on contradictions Floyd has made in this situation? And they aren't contradictions from his Uncle...Father...or promoters..it's contradictions straight from the horses mouth.... PAC hasn't made nearly as many contradictions although his camp has.
     
  8. PetethePrince

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    Because he's smearing Pac's image for no legitimate reason. It wasn't just "Take the test." It was that combined with accusations.
     
  9. mrjotatp4p

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    Dude I am sorry but there is no reason for any athlete to not want to prove they are clean. I don't give a damn who is asking for the test or what their status is. Floyd has not made one contradictions when it comes to the testing. Floyd wanted full testing from day one. To save the fight he offered a 14 day cut off window. When Pacquiao refused that Floyd said he will not get another offer and went right back to his original offer which was full testing. Team Pac came out after Floyd beat Mosley and said they will do 14 days. Well Floyd is back at his original offer which is the offer they agreed to do from the start but pulled out. Then Arum said they agreed to full testing but later it was discovered that they wanted a 7 day cut off which is not what Floyd wanted.
     
  10. KnuckleUp99

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    I wouldn't... Floyd already looks bad in this situation. The problem that PAC is presented with is even if he beat Floyd after all the testing in the world and came up clean....Floyd would still have a "built in excuse" to justify his loss...he would simply say PAC beat the testing...it's not even TRUE OLYMPIC testing...nothing close to it....Olympic athletes beat the "GOLD STANDARD" all the time.... Floyd's watered down version isn't going to catch anyone who is doping.

    Taking the test will NOT prove you are clean....That's like saying ALL the olympic athletes are clean simply b/c they passed the tests.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    So Manny should take the test, whip Floyd's ass, rematch him with testing again and whip his ass again. Roach said it was white rice that gives Manny his power. Well Manny should test and whip that ass and hand out bags of rice to Floyd, Roger and everyone else in the ring after whipping Floyd's ass. He didn't do that though. He sued. :lol:
     
  12. Divi253

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    So you believe if Manny took the tests and beat Floyd, Floyd would still accuse him of cheating? After he did this big ordeal about having the testing done, he'd just go an say the testing wasn't effective? Wow.. ok.
     
  13. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Dude that is a weak argument. No if Pac takes the test and beats Floyd's ass then Floyd would look like a fool and have to be humble knowing that he got his ass whipped by a man who took the testing that was asked of him. I don't care if its watered down or not. You say it won't catch anybody then Manny should be more than happy to take watered down OSDT.
     
  14. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    The **** don't make sense. **** Ali was trying to kill a man in the ring that wouldn't call him by his name and Manny doesn't want to **** Floyd up for accusations. Something is weird about that ****.
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

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    PAC shouldn't have to PROVE he's clean based on the baseless accusations Floyd was pushing. The whole testing is a big contradiction bro...that's why no one really is giving it too much legitimacy....sure the foundation for "better testing" is built in because who doesn't like a "CLEAN" sport...but Floyd Style Drug Testing isn't any better than post fight blood testing. It's a nice thought but lacks any real "game changing" element to really make any kind of difference.

    Floyd could have went with FULL Olympic style testing. That's all year round...he could set the benchmark and lead by example by showing the world he's looking to really bring about change...and prove that the DEMANDS were never to create a way out of fighting PAC...but to really start a movement to clean up boxing that BEGAN with Floyd's most meaningful and most risky fight.

    And PAC has consistantly said for a long time now that he is ready, willing and able to agree to ALL of Floyd's testing but Floyd hasn't been consistent with expressing his intent to fight PAC.
     
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