The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Like I said, there's a youtube interview. Doubt it's a body double. As for this, maybe shoulda done that before. But there were a lot of threads on Pac vs. Floyd before you joined. Can't be going out of my way to prove things discussed before you came along.

 

void is void.

farmboxer said. void is gay, duck, suckerpuncher mayweather.

 

Because, he feels Manny may be "hiding something". He's, basically, said this himself. His initial motivation was not to "clean up the sport". That should be obvious to anyone expect a complete nuthugger. It, obviously, was to ensure (in the best way he knew how) that Manny was not going to come into the fight against him with the benefits of PEDs. And he extended this demand to any of his other opponents.

Most of these other theories, on this matter, are used to prove that one guy is 'scared' of the other. When that's probably not the case.

 

The testing for Holyfield was kept relatively quiet because Holyfield readily agreed to it and as a result it never hindered the negotiating process.

Mayweather's demands went public because the drug testing was the sole reason why the fight was not going to take place.

Once negotiations broke down, there was no other recourse but for the negotiating sides to point for the reasons the sides did'nt come to an agreement.


Tyson stipulating he wanted Holyfield to submit to a PED test barely got a mention in some newspapers across the world, and it was solely because neither side made a stink about wanting or not wanting to take the test.

.......the same would have held true had Pacquiao done what Holyfield did and accepted a request for PED testing.
Had it happened that way under private negotiations, us the fans may have never known there was such a PED test requirement to begin with.

You say no to PED testing and it effects a fight not getting made, its going to make the news.

 

it started with the cotto fight. he blew cotto out as i predicted. cotto was too slow for manny. i knew it was a mismatch. wtf did sr act all surprised? dumb mofo. floyd still believing his dad's bs

 

Who was the first fighter to say, "no, I will not take PED testing?????."lol:

 

that's your spin? Tyson did take the Floyd route.....that's the reason the outcomes played out so differently. It's that simple....

 

It matters because Floyd is jealous of Manny being the no.1 guy and chose to accuse him of cheating to try and cover up his cowardice. Plain and simple.

 

Its a relevant question... Junior is asking for that special test because he is scared as hell! He is basically throwing in the white flag and saying this guy is too good, I dont want to fight him!

 

I dont see what your point is.

 

ive had my doubts about manny for quite a while. his refusal to take the test just showed me he is possibly hiding something. bernard refused to the test also. and nobody is busting his hump as much as manny's and bernard's case is more suspicious. u cant accuse a man of cheating if he aint never been caught:deal mayweathers got hogwash. it is well known floyd has ducked challenges thru out his career. many think pac is a serious threat to him like cotto, margarito and mosley when all of them were in their primes. floyd never faces serious challenges. this is a fact:deal he luvs that "0." just telling it like it is.

 

As I said, Pacquiao was the first to refuse......
......Hopkins was the only one at GBP to go public and back Pacquiao for refusing (I have no doubt he was anticipating some fighter might call on him to test) he was correct. Hopkins became the 2nd fighter to refuse a requests for additional PED testing.

Btw, I've often referred to Hopkins as a PED user myself.
When you refuse a test, you're a PED user as far as I'm concerned.:deal


As for Mayweather? I agree with you, he's a cherry picker no doubt.
Possible style matchup clashes he simply avoids.
Avoiding Margarito and Paul Williams and simply retiring after the DLH fight are prime examples.

Williams was a bad style matchup for Mayweather.
A big Welter with a huge height and reach advantage.

The way to break Mayweather's defense is to simply be able to take a shot and punch nonstop right through it.
Margarito fit that bill that could trouble a pot shotter type like Mayweather. Mayweather simply dismissed Margarito and refused to fight him though he was being offered his biggest payday at the time of 8 million, before DLH had any interest in fighting Mayweather.

Mayweather must have seen Margarito's fight against the slick Sergio Martinez and decided thats not my cup of tea.

 

The Holyfield tests was a one-off test. One day, one tests.

Are you trying to compare that one with what Gayweather demanded?

If Gayweather demanded the same tests as that was done in the Holyfield tests, I am sure that we are already talking of the rematch.

 

Pac was not the first to refuse.

Pac agreed to a different timeline. Mayweather agreed to a different one. Pac disagreed, Mayweather disagreed.

Refusing has differenbt meaning.

 

unbelieveable. hes on the shite no doubt. he looked ordinary against calzaghe, ornelas and then, he looks "young" with fresh legs against pascal. :roll: so, u think pac's style come forward throwing a lot of punches with speed gives floyd problems, or, will his sloppyness make himself look stupid against floyd's superior defense?