How bad would Mike Tyson beat Joe Frazier?

I look upon this match up in a different way to most. I see it as Mike Tyson only having one way that he would beat Frazier,instead of the other way about. This would be storming out and catching the slow starting Frazier cold. This happens,and Tyson wins within three rounds. The bout stands a great chance of turning out this way.

If Frazier,though,is still standing after five rounds then it becomes a close up war of attrition. Under this scenario there's only going to be one man standing,and his name is Joe Frazier.

I give a 60/40 chance to the latter scenario.

 

Tyson would beat Frazier really badly.

I think Tyson had Fraziers number stylistically.

Against Marvis, he stated soemthing like
"When you jab, he bows, he doesnt bend, he bows, when he bows, im going to catch him with an uppercut"

Tyson would beat Frazier, it wouldnt go late at all.
You dont stand in front of Tyson

 

How bad would Tyson beat Frazier? You're kidding right? Too many tinman rectum sniffers dont quite understand the differene in k.o.ing 2nd rate bums and fighting atg's. Dont confuse the tin man with Foreman. Tyson doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to beat ant atg heavy. Tyson wouldnt last 5 rounds with Joe before he started looking for that soft spot on the canvas.

 

Couldn't have said it better.

 

Tyson was certainly in the class of Frazier in the late 80's and overall quite a bit above in my opinion. Faster and stronger, with a better arsenal of punches. Tyson was only "somewhat" stymied when he was held. Frazier would stand with Tyson and get his head taken off. He was just too small and predictable and didnt have the ability to stand up to Tysons power and speed which is grossly underated by know nothings on this site.

 

Yeah Tyson was a total ***** in the late 80's, his comp was all 2nd rate bums. atsch

 

No doubt in my mind Frazier would beat Tyson, he would bully him just like Holyfield did and then finish him in the later rounds.

 

Couldn't have said it better. How come Tyso rectum sniffers NEVER say one thing about his heart. Do they really think the tin man could beat atg's with such a weak ticker? Real idiots compare Joe to Marvis, Joe was an atg, Marvis a good clubfighter.

 

Throw skills, combinations, defense, and crap like that out the window. That isn't happening here. These guys skill sets are based on working around and countering over jabs against bigger men, but this will be a phone booth fight, where Joe was more at home than Tyson. Mike liked to get off a combination on the inside, hold or accept his opponent's clinch, and reset. But not Fraizer, he stayed in his man's chest, and kept working, not unlike 96 Holyfield.

Mike will have early success, probably pushing Joe into the ropes like Quarry, maybe squeezing off a few combos, but by the end of the night, Tyson will be frustrated with his back to the ropes, wandering what he got himself into.

 

Yeah Tyson's body uppercut shot would be worthless against Frazier hanging his chin out coming forward. atsch

 

Mike used that combination to cut down tall men leaning over him. How he's going to use that when Frazier is ramming his head into him and digging. Mike isn't going to play Foreman, fight off the back foot, and use his jab to move the bobbing Frazier into his uppercut. This is going to be men of roughly equal size, with very little space between.

 

It's not like Frazier wasn't there to be hit, Quarry, Ali, Foreman all hit him at will pretty much. Tyson's allot faster and accurate than 2 of those and contrary to some people's beliefs around here, he is a murderer on the inside and a better bodypuncher than Frazier

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You bring Julius Francis I bring you "Ziggy" Zyglewicz.

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The major chance for Frazier is if he finds out that he can back Tyson up. Then it gets very interesting. The likes of Chuvalo and Frazier noted that Tyson was not a very adept infighter. It may not have been a "prime" Tyson but chubby Buster Mathis Jr. backed him up to the ropes and did decent for a while by bobbing & weaving, messing up Tyson's rhythm and accuracy. Frazier was no Buster Mathis Jr.

 

-Quarry is a good analogy and he didn't really hit Frazier at will, though he got some shots in.

-Foreman and his team perfected a two punch combo for Frazier that really only someone of his size and power could utilize. Jab to get Joe to bob down, and bomb him with the long sweeping upperct. Ali had trouble finding Frazier, he missed many, many, many punches to land what he did. Neither is a great analogy to Tyson, I don't care how fast and accurate he is.

-Tyson a better bodypuncher than Frazier? Mike was largely a head hunter, if he had a better body attack than Joe he could have used it when fighters like Tucker scouted his lunging hooks.

 

Interestingly enough, i remember this matchup being discussed in Ring magazine's segment " battle of the legends", about 20 years ago.. One of the people who's opinion it featured, was James " bonecrusher" smith.. Smith of course fought Tyson and was briefly trained and managed by Joe Frazier... When asked, he picked Tyson to beat Frazier in the early rounds.