Wlad is not a top 20 HW, he has never beaten anyone of significance

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  1. Nay_Sayer

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    Curious that you would post this image of Ramses II as I don't know of ANY White people anywhere who are this dark.

    Maybe you do. If so, please post their pics here for all of us to see...
     
  2. Nay_Sayer

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    And were you not paying attention to this image here?

    Half of the "Nubians" depicted here are the exact same complexion as Ramses himself.

    Care to explain why?
     
  3. Nay_Sayer

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    Mediterranean "White sub-race"? You can't be serious.

    Anyhow, beyond being flatout wrong it doesn't say anthing about the rest of the skeletons for the populations examined. I'm sure the limb proportions for these populations would indicate that they were tropically adapted.

    And don't think I didn't notice how you *failed* to provide a link for this quote.

    Why is that?
     
  4. cross_trainer

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    While your scrambling is impressive, none of it matters.

    "Earlier in the evolutionary process" says very little about the relative sophistication of step pyramids compared compared to pointy pyramids. If your source had said something like, "Egyptian true pyramids require significantly more engineering knowledge / technology / whatever than step pyramids", you'd have a point. All that it says is that pointy pyramids came later than step pyramids and shared some of their technological features.

    Also, your sources don't support your claim that "no comparisons can be made" between step pyramids and pointy pyramids. In fact, the articles' entire point was to compare pyramid design in different time periods. :yep
     
  5. Nay_Sayer

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    Well, if it's your argument that "Step Pyramids" and "True Pyramids" are equallty complex then please cite your evidence. I'm not going to do your job for you.


    Nor does it have to. However, it does make the point that the "Step Pyramid" is an earlier design than that of the "True Pyramid". Therefore, comparing "Step Pyramids" to "True Pyramids" is a case of comparing apples to oranges. One is primitive to the other. The FACT is Mesoamericans *never* built a "True Pyramid". Hence, no comparison can be made between Mesoamerican Pyramids and Giza seeing as the latter came later in the evolutionary process.


    Yes, and it notes that the "Step Pyramid" is earlier in the evolutionary process of Pyramid design. What is it about this simple FACT that you fail to understand?

    [url]http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/pyramidevolution.htm[/url]
    The "Step Pyramid" is earlier in the evolutionary process of Pyramid design which culminates in the development of the "True Pyramid".
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

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    If none of these images look like Black men then please tell me who or what do they look like?

    Do they look like Europeans? If not, please tell me exactly who or what these images look like.
     
  7. cross_trainer

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    Exactly who they look like?

    Hmm...Well, they're vaguely humanoid. They appear to have gigantic, iris-less eyes, which suggests that perhaps they're significantly smaller than humans, they're cave-dwellers, or they're some sort of prey animal that needs to keep an eye out for natural enemies.

    Also, they appear to have red skin. Doubtless this helps them blend in with their environment, which I would guess contains large amounts of red clay. Finally, with the exception of the fellow on top, they seem to be completely two-dimensional, which must make travel difficult. This, too, corroborates the prey animal theory. Since they can't move very quickly, they must need to hide on a routine basis.

    ...Or maybe, just maybe, they're stylized representations of people from which you can't draw conclus....

    Nah. That's silly. They're clearly small, two-dimensional prey animals that live in caves of red clay.
     
  8. cross_trainer

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    No, I'd say the burden of proof is clearly yours. Let's recall the series of steps that lead us here, shall we?

    1) I asked you to prove Egyptian technological superiority.

    2) You said "pyramids".

    3) I replied that other cultures built pyramids.

    4) You said that their pyramids were less advanced.

    5) I asked you how.

    6) You posted a source saying that Egyptians built step pyramids before they built pointy pyramids. It did not explain why one is more difficult to build than another, or the difference in technology that's involved.


    The burden of proof, my dear Nay_Sayer, is clearly yours. You ultimately want to prove that the Egyptians were more advanced than their neighbors. When you say "pyramids", you need to explain what technologies the Egyptians used (besides muscle power and sweat) that makes the pyramids such an impressive achievement.

    Three things.

    First, your source does not support your argument. It never says that comparing step pyramids to pointy pyramids is like comparing "apples to oranges", or that pointy pyramids are so much more advanced than step pyramids that comparison is impossible. That's all your invention. If you want to get technical, you should be posting a source.

    Second, "earlier in the evolutionary process" might mean that it's a technological development, or it might mean that it simply came later. "Evolution" can mean either. For example, aircraft technology has "evolved" from the Wright Brothers' plane to the stealth bomber, but fashion has also "evolved" from flapper dresses to bluejeans. Earlier doesn't equal vastly more primitive.


    ...However, my THIRD objection is more important, so we're going to italicize it in case you ignore the other two:

    Third, we're talking relative sophistication here. Let's say your interpretation is correct: pointy pyramids are more advanced than step pyramids to some degree. That still doesn't settle the argument. If Egypt's pointy pyramids represented a VAST advance over step pyramids, then you're right: Egypt's pyramids are much more impressive. On the other hand, if pointy pyramids only represented a TINY advance over step pyramids, then they're not so impressive. When you say "apples and oranges", you implicitly assume the first possibility. I'm asking you to back up that argument, since your source doesn't support it.



    See above.
     
  9. cross_trainer

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    This argument reminds me of the debates over whether Japanese cartoon characters look "Asian" or "European".
     
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  11. Nay_Sayer

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    Source please.


    Broken links do not qualify as sources.
     
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    You really need to stop with the foolishness. Obviously the fashion comparison does *not* apply. Pyramid building techniques became more complex as they transitioned from one type to the next. The "Step Pyramid" is an earlier and less complex design than the "True Pyramid".
     
  13. Nay_Sayer

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    This document says nothing about the Ancient Egyptians being Arabic or Semetic. Do you have anything else?
     
  14. Nay_Sayer

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    Now you are changing your story.

    Do you need time to get your lies straight?
     
  15. philby

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    You like boxing!?:huh You haven't got the first clue about boxing.:nono