How bad would Mike Tyson beat Joe Frazier?

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They were second-rate though.

 

**** no i just like watching that ko
foreman hoooooooooooooooooooooooook:smoke

 

No way is this a blow out. However long it goes this fight will be extremely exciting and competitive. i fancy Tyson like but he would have to be on top form.

I can see him either stopping joe frazier early to mid rounds but if frazier survives he will be in a struggle and He will have to use his underatted defensive boxing skills to snatch a points verdict or late ko

 

I have that issue as well. Bonecrusher and someone else, can't remember who picked Tyson early while an old timer picked Frazier early.

There's another issue of the Ring, an all Tyson issue, where Steve Farhood pits Tyson against the all time greats. Incidentally, he picks Ali to outbox Tyson over the distance and Frazier to survive a real scare in the early rounds to out hustle Tyson down the stretch. Tyson beats everyone else. Fond memories of Ali and Frazier perhaps.

A good, heated fight for as short as it lasts. Frazier doesn't have the ability to tie Tyson up. Both guys coming forward with one being bigger, faster, stronger and more accurate...and better. Frazier doesn't make it out of the 2nd round.

 

Yes,but a 38 year old faded and ring rusty ATG.

 

I wouldn't say he was that rusty. Holmes knew a Tyson fight was in the works since 86. He kept in good shape knowing that fight was on the horizon. And don't say he was better 4 years later by fighting stiffs like Doc Anderson and Eddie Gonzalez. He was smart and took the Foreman route to get his title shot.

 

I'll favor Tyson, but two come foreward fighters could produce a lot of infighting and if Frazier can STAY IN when he gets in he well could pull off an upset. Tyson has about 6-8 rounds to get Joe ***** and get Joe out; after that, I suspect Mike's going to start thinking about all the other places he' rather be and all the other things he'd rather be doing.

 

Yes,but he was way past it even for the Tyson fight. Beating Holmes at that point,was no achievement for Mike.

 

Frazier was stronger than most think. They judge the losses vs Foreman who was stylistically wrong for Frazier but that also was a far lower than par Frazier that Foreman beat.....Frazier had much more heart than Tyson and say what you will about his 6 knockdowns vs Foreman but Joe got up 6 times....Tyson never got off the floor to win so prime vs prime Frazier may surprise us with his will

 

Ever throw an uppercut?

 

If Frazier gets thru the first 3 or 4 rounds (and I think he would) he wins IMO... unless he's on the verge of being stopped going into the 4th or 5th round.

Frazier was only beat by two men. He beat Ali once and gave him hell in the rubber match. Foreman beat him twice convincingly but he was much different than Tyson.

Foreman stood 6'4" with an 84" reach. He also was stronger and punched harder than Tyson IMO. Frazier would actually by slightly taller than Tyson with a longer reach as well.

Frazier was down 6 times vs. Foreman in their first fight but never gave up. He was down twice vs. Foreman in the rematch.

He was also down twice vs. Bonavena in their first fight... Frazier won by majority decision. Frazier beat Bonavena by a wider margin in the rematch.

Frazier started slow sometimes and Tyson started fast but that doesn't mean that Tyson would stop Frazier early. I think Frazier would come prepared and look to not only survive the early rounds but keep the fight close without suffering too much damage going into the middle rounds.

Frazier did beat Bonavena x2, Eddie Machen KO10, Doug Jones KO6, George Chuvalo KO4, Buster Mathis KO11, Jerry Quarry x2 KO7 and KO5, Jimmy Ellis x2 KO5 and KO9, Bob Foster KO2, Muhammad Ali W15, and Joe Bugner W12 among others.

It would be a good fight and Tyson would be very dangerous early. I think Frazier might get dropped once or twice thru the first 4 rounds. After 6 rounds I think Frazier would have the momentum. I think Tyson would be ahead after 6 with Frazier in the process of closing the gap. After 8 rounds Tyson would still be up by about 2 (I'm thinking 76-74) but Frazier would have all the momentum... Tyson's right eye would be swollen shut. In round 9 Frazier drops Tyson... 84-84 going into the 10th. Round 10 is all Frazier. Tyson is having trouble seeing and Frazier is landing at will. Tyson gets dropped again and the ref stops it.

 

Ali tried....

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I guess not. I would post a picture of Foreman doing the same thing to Frazier 6 times, but its not worth the time. :hi:

 

no, me never throw uppercut, what dat?

Except my picture would actually be signficiant because it shows what you are open for when you try to uppercut Frazier within his punching range.

Sorry, but Tyson is going to struggle to get that combination off against a pushing, bobbing fighter of the same size, looking to take his head off with a left hook first chance he gets.

 

I mean really, Tyson was more skillful than Frazier when it came to working around bigger men's jabs. Frazier was much more work-rate orientated than Tyson's fluid purposeful movements.

But at close range where this bout would be fought, its a dog fight, and Frazier was more comfortable and experienced in that situation. I don't think Tyson is more skillful fighter in that situation. And unless Frazier suddenly adpots a high guard and leans over Mike, that body uppercut combo isn't going to be a big factor.