Best bareknuckle fighter of all time head to head.

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Not who had the best resume, but who represented the absolute pinacle of the bareknuckle fighter as a fighting machine?

    Oh, and why?
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Chicken Game, he was unstopble in his hay day.
     
  3. Armstrong!

    Armstrong! Active Member Full Member

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    It's got to be Fitzsimmons. Him or Jefferies and for obvious reasons.
     
  4. dempsey would lay out that muppet fitzsimmons and yall ****in know it
     
  5. Jorodz

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    dempseytheGOAT is working overtime! you are one tenacious troll

    as to the thread, i can't wait to see where this goes. my knowledge of bareknuckle fighting and the era is pretty weak so this will be enlightening
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Bobby Gunn, of course.
     
  7. Jorodz

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    is this boston tom mcmustache you speak of?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFdBK4gdYcA[/ame]
     
  8. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They aren't bare-knuckle fighters...... Hard to pick one name,,,,, Broughton and mandoza and Cribb for the Broughton rules era,... and Jem Mace,.... Non Pariel Dempsey.... Sullivan are contenders for London PRR,............and honourable mention to Tom Heenan and Morrisey among a dozen I should also know.... The only bare-knuckle fighter who was never defeated over a long career........ the 7 fights on Foley's record with Jem Mace were strictly exhibitions so don't count them,,,,, It was Mace who taught Foley the science. Although he's not a contender, Foley is worth a biography at least.
     
  9. Jorodz

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    if i had to pick, i'd pick cribb or mace but again my knowledge of this era is weak
     
  10. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pierce Egan believed Jack Randall to be the best bare-knuckle fighter he had ever seen.

    Many who were around during the time of Jem Belcher considered him an unparalleled colossus. He was more finely built than the likes of Broughton and Cribb but amazingly swift and destructive.

    With two perfectly working eyes Cribb would have very likely been beat first time and Henry Pearce would of had a tough time indeed.
     
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    How can you not pick John L Sullivan ? No bare-knuckle fighter could hit so hard as the great John L. One opponent he couldn't beat. John Barleycorn....
     
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    Cribb
    Mendoza
    Mace
    Jackson
    Belcher
    Sullivan
    How are we to judge?
    Don't know ,but I say he was English :good
     
  14. janitor

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    Sullivan is hard to place in this context.

    It is quite possible that he is not up there with the best bareknuckle fighters, due to his limited number of fights under that ruleset.

    All we can say for sure, is that he was verry dominant against the best bareknuckle fighters of a weak era, in three fights.

    How he would have handeled the transition to an unfamiliar ruleset in a stronger era is harder to say.
     
  15. lepinthehood

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    lenny mclean