The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    What did you gain in that period?

    Extra strength? Bull****.

    Extra endurance? Bull****
     
  2. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You all realize Kizer directly addresses that the NSAC would be "happy" to handle the testing that Floyd wanted....as long as the fighter funded it....Kizer also stated they would have and are still willing to use the USADA as advisors or consultants utilizing their expertise in drug testing.

    Just because invasive blood testing is unsafe and wouldn't occur on fight night doesn't mean NO blood testing would be implemented...or that it wouldn't be random. WADA nor USADA ever test boxers on the day of a scheduled match due to the health risks involved... But urine tests can which probably happen often.
     
  3. unkindworld

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    Yes, that is necessary. They should also release the results within 3 days or so after the test to ensure that it isn't rigged. Results that take to long to be released are suspicious cause they can be altered during the lull period. Switching documents shouldn't be to hard if one has an insider in the agency supervising the tests.
     
  4. ???

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    You are spitting too much common sense. Apparently Manny Steward unilaterally petitioning the commission to test SRL is the same as the situation Kizer describes above.
     
  5. unkindworld

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    Yes, that is necessary. They should also release the results within 3 days or so after the test to ensure that it isn't rigged. Results that take to long to be released are suspicious cause they can be altered during the lull period. Switching documents shouldn't be too hard if one has an insider in the agency supervising the tests.
     
  6. Goro

    Goro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah and they all would get detected in his ****.

    They would be taking NSAC urine tests alone with USADA urine tests.
     
  7. pejevan

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    Because the act alone is not exactly without complications.

    You have immediate effects like contusion, hematoma, swelling, pain on the extremity, nerve injury (extreme cases), venous aneurysm

    The long term effects are infection, transmission of disease like hepatitis (rare)
     
  8. unkindworld

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    Sorry about the double post.
     
  9. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.... It was said that they lost his blood results and had to take another sample a day before the fight.
     
  10. Boxing Fanatic

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    mosley was roiding and they never detected anything from him. people found out after mosley said it on video
     
  11. Concrete

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    This is all stuff they could put in contract without having to petition the NSAC though. NSAC isn't needed, whats needed is a smart negotiation in contract to ensure fair play.
     
  12. PUNCHDRUNK

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    Sorry, not exactly the response I was after..... I was trying to imagine all these blinged up prepubescent M.D.'s rolling around the hood in their pimped up cadillacs, leaning of their windows shouting "Floyd a G"......
     
  13. KnuckleUp99

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    Marion Jones was never caught even with true Olympic testing....not some watered down tests that the try and label "OSDT" to attempt to give it some validity.
     
  14. bballchump11

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4777048

    Also Monday, the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the fight because it is due to take place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, set in motion plans to randomly test the urine of both fighters regardless of whether the fight takes place.


    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4772853
    On Friday, Arum said their side was willing to sit down with Golden Boy and the Nevada State Athletic Commission to work out the details of the testing. Nevada only requires a prefight and a postfight urine test, although it could also test blood if the sides asked.

    But on Saturday, Arum, speaking from his vacation in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, backtracked, saying even the three tests were out the window -- unless Nevada asked for them, which Arum knows is unlikely.

    Arum:
    "Our position is that since the fight would be in Nevada, let [the Mayweather side] make any petition it wants to the commission," Arum said. "We wash our hands of it. If the commission wants to take blood, fine. We don't care. But we're not going to pander to this petty [expletive] about how many days before the fight they can test and so forth. Who are they [Golden Boy] to tell Manny what he's supposed to do? How many times did [Golden Boy boss] Oscar De La Hoya ever give blood before a fight? I will not let this kid get pushed around.

    "If they go to the commission and they ask for blood tests and the commission says yes, we will do whatever the commission says. The commission says blood testing, we'll do blood testing. We're not going to help it or oppose it. We're not going to give any credence to this nonsense. They want to sign a contract under the rules of the commission, fine. We don't want the fight if it means Manny is going to be pushed around. Let the commission tell us how many days in front they want blood. Let the commission pick a date to stop taking blood. We trust the commission. Blood testing we think is unnecessary, but fine, we'll do it. But let the commission set the parameters. Let Golden Boy approach the commission and say we want to take blood when he's walking into the ring. Whatever the commission wants to do we will support, but we won't take part in this exercise in nonsense, a procedure which is contrary to how boxing has been conducted in Nevada for 40 years. The burden is not on us to tell the commission what to do."

    Arum's appeal for the commission to handle matters may be hollow because although it has protocols in place for random urine testing during training camps, it doesn't for blood testing, and to put it in place in time for a March 13 fight is unlikely, according to Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada commission.

    "We're very confident that urine tests by themselves cover everything that needs to be covered, but if the camps want to do additional testing through a third party they are welcome to, as long as they also adhere to commission rules," Kizer told ESPN.com. "Urine testing we could run with today. We could test their urine every day from now until March 13. But blood testing is trickier because we don't require it. If the commission wanted to change the rule it would have to be at a public meeting and, at the earliest, that would be early to mid-January. We have done some urine testing during training camps. We have those protocols in place. Blood testing is a different story.


    Any more questions :hi:
     
  15. pejevan

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    So what?

    What exactly do you gain if you take it 20 hours before the fight?
     
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