The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So basically you have no proof or anything to back up these accusations. Wouldn't it be obvious if he did that vs Pac as well? Also there is also simple ways of negotiating to eliminate these petty insecurities like we agreed to before having them filmed and having a neutral 3rd party tester or 2.

    He was accused of being scared of Mosley and forced to fight him even though he didn't want to. Mosley was considered a big strong WW with decent hand speed and KO punching power. Plus had a history of PED use. Mosley was the perfect example of someone that he should have been paranoid of if he controlled USADA and needed them to manipulate the procedure in order to weaken his opponent. Same with Ortiz who was accused of using PEDs by Berto and is known for his strength and punching power. Why wouldn't Maywather look to test closer to the fight to try and take away from there power like it supposedly does if he had the power to.
     
  2. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol so basically you're saying Floyd should have just give in and take what he gets.. Since the NSAC had doctors state blood testing up to the date of the fight isn't safe... But Floyd wants random blood and urine up to the day of the fight... And if they negotiate that in the contract with USADA this is possible.. Agreeing to this petition would get PAC want he wants and not Floyd.. But it's not surprising you think that's adequate.

    Ok.. :thumbsup
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    dude stop it already. pac aint gonna get tested 365 24 7. hes a chicken shite. he dont want the fight:deal this aint no different when he ducked guzman at 130
     
  4. celiac trunk

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    why pac? we have a role model name floyd mayweather :rofl

    he started everything.


    is he tested 24/7, 365 days a year. why cant you answer the question?

    pac is not claiming to be a role model of ost. :rofl

    guzman? :rofl:rofl

    :rofl:rofl

    pac would stuff that clown and runner and send him back to your place :deal
     
  5. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They aren't Olympic athletes.. They are negotiating drug testing on a per fight basis... Floyd never requested anyone be tested on USADA's testing regimen... He requested all future opponents take random blood and urine tests up to the day of the fight..
     
  6. ceebz

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    Baloney. If Floyd were really trying to lead a movement; to "clean up the sport" he'd have himself year-round.

    If USADA were serious about the integrity of their own results, they'd adhere to their own testing agenda as it is stated in the WADA procedures. Instead, USADA is using Floyd for a cash grab and publicity.

    If you were in Pac's shoes, keeping in mind that USADA has compromised their own testing guidelines for Floyd, I'm sure you'd want your testing processed by some other organization.
     
  7. unkindworld

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    The solution is to have an agency that will be mutually agreed upon by all parties. When NSAC volunteered to be that party with the condition that the promoters pay the bill for the random testing. Pac, Top Rank, and Golden Boy were agreeable with the proposal, Floyd wasn't because he wants USADA, his and Golden Boys preferred agency, do the test. Floyd is not agreeable to any other testing agency except for USADA, their family even wants Pac to train in the US to ensure it. That proves he doesn't want the fight because he isn't agreeing to other alternatives that his Business partners are willing to accept. In short, it proves he doesn't want the fight in any other term than his.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    AGAIN, why would Floyd pay USADA to just tell himself and only himself while on vacation? If Floyd asked USADA to test himself, Pacquiao, Martinez and Khan starting right now all the way up until he fights them even if it's 2 years from now, then that'd be cool.
    But who would agree to that?

    You *******s keep talking like Floyd isn't doing real OSDT. Well if Pacquiao won't agree to test for 8 weeks, what makes you think he'll test for 52 weeks
     
  9. ceebz

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    Yet, USADA implements testing that adhere's to WADA's testing guidelines.

    Of course, as long as it's not Floyd.

    Name one other athlete that USADA tests only 6-8 weeks before a game, or season. All of those athletes get tested year round.
     
  10. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You believe Pac's not agreeing because he believes USADA compromised their testing guidelines, because Floyd's asking for him and all his future opponents be randomly urine and blood tested and USADA is doing it?
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

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    u r a troll LOL guzman? :lol::patsch pac couldnt even beat the crap out of a shot mosley and u think he is gonna beat guzman
     
  12. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which athlete besides Floyd has asked for and were willing to pay for random blood and urine testing before an event?
     
  13. ceebz

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    Floyd's spearheading revolution, right? he's cleaning up the sport, right?

    Do you really believe that, if Pac is using, he's only using during the training camp?


    Pull your ****ing head out of Floyd's ass.


    USADA is a testing organization that adheres to WADA's rules. Why doesn't Floyd have to adhere to that testing regimen as well? because he doesn't want to pay for it? :rofl
     
  14. bballchump11

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    I'm sorry, but you just don't know what you're talking about.
    Floyd Sr. said Pac can't train in the Phillipines because USADA can't test them there. Well for one, Floyd Sr. isn't involved in neogtiating at all. Second, he was kicked out of the camp. Third, WADA said the USADA can tell Pacquiao still adequately even if he's over there.
    So let's not bring that up because it's irrelevant. Floyd Jr. doesn't have a problem with Pac training over there.
     
  15. KnuckleUp99

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    Lol..... See, what pac wants is to fight Floyd. Floyd is looking to avoid Pac so yea....its adequate if that meant We would finally get to see Floyd vs Manny. Why should Pac have to be the one to go beyond the halfway mark when Floyd keeps moving the line?

    USADA or NSAC....both could accomplish what Floyd wanted.....everything but getting him a free pass to duck the fight. Having extra blood and urine testing during camp...randomly given was never the issue. That's what Floyd would like you to believe...just like there were no 2nd round negotiations....but guys like Kizer and greenburg pulls Floyds card and the truth reveals itself.
     
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