The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  2. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    i now understand where your post are coming from. :good
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    :lol::patsch u *******s r pathetic. go play hide and go seek now with your neighborhood buddies :hi::lol::patsch
     
  4. Boxing Fanatic

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    dude, even i can admit floyd ducked margarito, cotto, mosley, and paul williams when they were in their primes, come on:good
     
  5. Concrete

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    1. Your assuming and accusing Mayweather of knowing about Pac's issues of blood testing in order to think of a master plan to get out of the fight. Which he couldn't possibly have enough details or facts on in order to base his whole ability to duck the fight on. Mayweather doesn't go through months of negotiating with people he doesn't plan on fighting. It was Pac who left to fight Clottey while Mayweather didn't even have an opponent planned other then Pac. But I guess that was all apart of his master plan. He also automatically knew that Pac would turn down 14 days and then have Arum lie about it to hide the fact that they left the fight.

    2. That was how many yrs ago, how does he know how his body will react to testing at this age for him to automatically believe that he wouldn't be effected by it and give him the mental edge? And sure they test yr round but how frequently do they test for it to be comparable to what he would go through with Pac which is multiple test in a shorter period of time.

    Roach said a lot of things and most of it was BS. Am I to automatically believe that Pac and Arum were willing to fully accept testing the 2nd time around after they lied about 14 days being offered the first time and then withheld what they agreed to the 2nd time around while having different members of there camp state different views on what they agreed to or are willing to do. And what happened to Pac being weaken during training and the Morales fight stuff, why was it okay months later, but not earlier? He just went from blood hurting him mentally and during training to no problem at all.

    Does that mean all the problems from the first negotiation were BS or not as serious as they lead on? Or are they serious and his accepting of full testing is BS?
     
  6. Boxing Fanatic

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    sure and mike tyson in his prime :roll:
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    I am sick of Void's lies, Void is afraid and is making excuses. Void is void.............
     
  8. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Wow, the *****s have been busy defending their hero despite the overwhelming proof the doping issue is a ruse to duck the Pac fight :patsch

    BTW, Floyd is definitely on the down-low:lol:
     
  9. Boxing Fanatic

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    okay
     
  10. NoLace

    NoLace Lurker since Oct '09 Full Member

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    The Mayweather camp keeps saying that Pac's easy work for FMJr, that Pac's got no skill, etc.. If that's the case, what's stopping them from taking/making the fight with Manny? The OSDT? Well, aren't they the ones that put that there in the negotiations in the first place? If they didn't come up with that condition/demand to begin with, they (and us fans as well) wouldn't be arguing about this [up to now].

    And please don't even start with the "He just wants to clean up the sport" thing... let's not go there 'coz if that was the case they wouldn't be adamantly imposing the demand for this one particular fight like some sort of ultimatum.

    Anyone with a good knowledge in the business of boxing (such as the Mayweathers) should know, that if someone wants to make a huge change in how the sport is run, one has to address his/her concerns/ideas to the proper organization/s. That's how 'the system' works, yes? In this case, if you have a problem with how they screen athletes/boxers for steroids/PEDs, you go and raise this concern to the governing bodies like NSAC or USADA, NOT insistently protest it on your would-be opponent's training camp.

    Bottomline: If it's such an easy fight (and easy money) then why the need to create and impose such an unprecedented demand? Ring size, gloves, etc.. those are already a given in every single fight negotiation but on HOW a drug test ought to be done?! Isn't that why we have NSAC (and USADA) in the first place?

    As for the *******s and Pac fans (just some of 'em at least, NOT ALL of them)... what boggles me is this; if they agree (with the *****s and the haters) that Floyd can (or rather will) beat Pac [easily(?)], then why push for the FMJ-Pac fight? A fight that they feel/think that Pac will lose anyway? :huh
     
  11. osreyes77

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    Kizer's revelation really puts things in perspective. Everything these
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    Schaefer:

    "We are OK to move off USADA," Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer, who is representing Mayweather, told ESPN.com. "What we're saying, and what is important to us, is four things -- that the tests be random, that they include blood and urine and the time frame, meaning when do you stop the tests before the fight but know they will still be effective.

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    "Up until now, it’s been a very difficult negotiation process for various reasons but right now we’re very close,” De La Hoya said in Spanish and translated by fight scribe John Chavez of boxingtruth.com.

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    Ross Greenburg, HBO:

    In late July, following the second round of failed negotiations for a Floyd
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    Greenburg acknowledged that he acted as a mediator between Pacquiao's
    promoter Bob Arum, Top Rank Promotions' CEO, and Mayweather's manager, Al
    Haymon, even as Golden Boy Promotions' president, Oscar De La Hoya, and
    Mayweather's adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, had denied that negotiations took place.

    According to Greenburg, the fight was close to being made during both rounds of negotiations. The second time around, Mayweather turned the fight down without reason. To date, Greenburg was never provided with an explanation from Mayweather or his handlers.

    "Both times, the fight was very close to being made.
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    Looks like everybody was ready to rock and roll. Top Rank, Golden Boy, Pacquiao, and HBO were all on board. Everything had been agreed to. Only one little problem...
     
  12. Anima

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    *****s : All of them are liars, Pac should take the tests. :nut
     
  13. VivaNazVegas

    VivaNazVegas Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more
     
  14. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    take the test:mad:
     
  15. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Do you know how dumb it'd look for Floyd to pay USADA to test him randomly when he's on vacation.

    Floyd: "Hey USADA can you test me while I'm on vacation randomly?"
    USADA: Sure Floyd. You need us to test Pacquiao also?
    Floyd: No, just me
    USADA: uh :blood why? Are you trying to make sure you're clean?
    Floyd: No, there's some guys on the internet that said I'm not doing real OSDT
    USADA: :conf
     
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