Why Wladimir is Fighting Mormeck, It's Very Simple

Actually they are very accurate and are in fact done by using a mathematical equation which leaves it unsubjected to bias. Your opinion is **** when you just make a statement and do not back it up with evidence.

 

I agree with you that I'd rather see a rematch of Wlad and Haye but that's a risky business move considering how the first fight didn't live up to expectations. Second time around will be a lot harder sell. Haye would be more marketable if he won another fight at HW (love to see him fight Arreola) Toney doesn't really deserve a shot does he? He lost twice to Peter who lost twice to Wlad. Still, I agree, I would pay to see Toney fight Wlad for sheer entertainment value

And Mormeck is no little girl by any means. For all those who think Wlad has a glass chin, did it become granite all of a sudden? This is a no win situation for Wlad. If he wins he's a bully padding his record. If he loses? OMG that's all the sports world will be hearing about for years. All the pressure is on Wlad. Mormeck really has nothing to lose which makes him dangerous in my book :good

 

Nope they are **** and its because of that mathematical formula.

 

Interesting, so you think Wlad would not be criticized for taking another fight with Haye? I know you would go again.

 

Maybe he dosent but Mormeck does even less. Toney has victory over best HW who Mormeck has defeated in Oquendo. He also made Rahman quit in
three rounds couple of years ago.
Also he won the first Peter fight in my book.

And yeah Haye should beat someone to make it more marketable but even without it, it is better choice than Mormeck.

No he is not. He is very good cruiser but he didnt look that good in his last three heavy fights. He seems to have lost his speed and power because of his age and weight class jump.

Well atleast he is more interesting choice than Chisora was.

 

Really if anyone deserves criticism for this fight it's Arreola. He's had plenty of fights to build his confidence and I see no valid reason at all why he can't fight Wlad NOW rather than 2012. What's his excuse???

 

That's why I said "In my book". I think a fighter with nothing to lose brings a dangerous intangible to the ring. Never under-estimate an opponent :nono However, I am going with Wlad by KO

What would you do if you were Wlad? Pass on the Mormeck fight and start begging the other contenders to step in the ring? That's what it looks like it's come to from my point of view. Heck, I'm a boxing fan. I'm gonna' watch the fight, **** anything can happen. Let's just hope someday soon Povetkin, Helenius and the others grow a pair and fight for the HW title like they're supposed too :good

 

You're overlooking a few things. First and most importantly, those who you claim said "no" to a fight, how can we judge whether that is excuse enough not to be facing that fighter (and fighting a feeble midget) if we don't know what was offered? Perhaps there is an issue of Wlad's people not offering enough money to these fighters who are likely going to get a little jabbed up and hurt and beat. Perhaps Mormeck is happy to take a less than great payday (relatively speaking of course comparing hw title fights) because he is at the end of his career and knows he's going to lose so why not cash out. Some of the other not old guys, might figure a lower offer ain't worth it b/c they can postpone it and hope to have more leverage. In short, we need to know what was offered before it's acceptable to fight JMM.

Wlad's people should be offering a 40% split of things for a title challenger no? Them offering 750k (while wlad's side makes millions) isn't totally justified just by saying that's more than they'll make elsewhere

 

Yeah. I'd take a KO loss in one round to get a million dollars too

 

It's either Mormeck or an untested, unproven American/Euro fighter.

Here's my sleeper list who would take the fight, but Wlad would get even more hate for doing so, especially if he stopped them early.

Seth Mitchell
David Rodriguez
Maruizs Wach
Chauncey Welliver
James Toney
Antonio Tarver
Ollie McCall
Michael Grant
Evander Holyfield
Amir Monsour
Ding Wilson
Hasim Rahman
Shannon Briggs
Brian Minto
Davaryl Williamson
Tye Fields
Derrick Rossy
Danny Williams
Michael Sprott

 

Arreola said NO, he wasn't ready yet. He didn't say anything about the monetary value of the offer - just that he was NOT ready. And Helenius didn't come out and say the offer was too low either. Have you seen Arreola, Helenius, or any fighter in the news complaining how they would have fought Wladimir Dec 10th if the money had been right? You haven't.

Translation: It's not about the money. They genuinely don't feel they are ready yet (and they aren't).

 

Couple of things. A) Mormeck ain't ready and never will be; b) Briggs demonstrrated Vitali's low offer (relative to what the overall fight was worth); C) just b/c arreola and helenius didn't complain about money, doesn't mean offers aren't low -- we don't know if it got to $ or a simple 'not interested', plus maybe Arreola and Helenius don't wanna whine about a lower offer due to confidentiality clauses, future negotiations, who knows......

i'm not saying wlad's handlers are low balling, but if the best opponent his people can come up with is Mormeck I would suspect that there is lowballing going on

 

:deal

Arreola says he not ready...well guess what? Fighting Alonzo Butler isn't going to be prepare him for Wladimir.

 

True this might be more interesting to watch, even though Grant is so slow he really would have no chance (outside a puncher's chance).

The reason they chose Mormeck over a journeyman like Grant is getting a French TV audience (not sure if its ppv or not). Mormeck brings a small fan base to the table and Grant (or some other American heavyweight) brings none.

 

I said before an unkown quantity is a better fight than mormeck. the problem is that wlad-mormeck will prob make money in europe, hence it's made.