Who do you consider the greatest fighter of all time?

Hahaha...I dont doubt it mate!.....

Honourable mention for RJJ :good

 

Can only talk about guys I've seen train 'n fight live. SRR's #1 for me

 

I will post this one more time. Even Muhammad Ali said that Sugar
Ray Robinson was the greatest fighter, pound for pound, of all time.

"To me, in his time, and even today, pound for pound, when they say Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest fighter, pound for pound, meaning that I imagine if he was a heavyweight, fighting the same style, he'd be the greatest. I would have to admit. I would have to say yes. I have his fight films, I've watched the films. You have them. That man was beautiful. Timing, speed, reflexes, rhythm, his , everything was beautiful. And to me, still, I would say pound for pound, I say I'm the greatest heavyweight of all times, but pound for pound, I still say Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest of all times." --- Muhammad Ali

 

I renember reading something about him getting in a street fight outside a nightclub with Mickey Walker. i heard he beat the crap out of gene tunney which was his only loss.

Also how would harry greb do against a light heavyweight Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr?

 

By all accounts, he hit harder than both, and he was faster than both. More technically skilled than Jones, and could be dirtier than Hopkins.

 

What do you know about Robinson? Ali said Robinson was the greatest. Is that enough for you? Robinson was 85-0 (69), 40 in the first round, as an amateur. He was at one time, 128-1-2-1, beating the one guy who beat him 5 times! He didn't really start losing fights until he was well into his 30's. Muhammad Ali is great and I probably rate him higher pound for pound than many, but make no mistake about it, you would have to either be insane, or just not very knowledgeable about boxing to rate Ali higher than the likes of Robinson or Greb. :deal

 

faster and more skilled than roy and bernard :admin:admin:admin damn

yeah i heard he was a very dirty fighter

 

Greb hit harder than Jones Jr.? By all accounts he wasn't much of a puncher. He could be when he sat down on his punches occasionally (as his first round KO over Gunboat Smith attests to), but apart from that he was essentially a pitty-pat flurry type of fighter, reliant on overwhelming the opposition's senses with volleys of punches/angling movements/clinch-fighting, etc. Jones was a vastly superior pure puncher. Hopkins too, really.

I also can't believe that Greb was ever faster than Jones. That would make him the fastest fighter of all time. I'd assume his speed was about on a par with Calzaghe.

 

Some say the street fight was nothing more than a Walker myth, while others say that it did take place. The story goes that while discussing their battle from earlier that day, Walker said something about Greb's dirty fighting and then that sparked it off. As Greb was removing his jacket, Walker nailed him and that started the fight. May be true, may be myth. I don't know.

I started a thread about a year ago titles "Harry Greb vs. the great middleweights" and I would pick him to beat both Jones and Hopkins. I think Hopkins would present more trouble for Greb than ANY of the great middleweight champions in history based on his great, cautious defensive style. Now, remember, this is 100% my OPINION. I don't own the missing Greb fight footage, but I have read extensively about his style and I do believe that head to head, Greb was THE best middleweight in history. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it. Either Jones or Hopkins would at the very least be a major problem for ANY middleweight in the history of the sport, if they weren't able to beat them.

 

Me,too.

 

im reading about the first fight of Greb and Tunney this si what Tunney says after the fight:

He was never in one spot for more than half a second," said Tunney. "All my punches were aimed and timed properly but they always wound up hitting empty air.

"My arms were plastered with leather and although I jabbed, hooked and crossed, it was like fighting an octopus."

also Greb was 5 ft 8 while Tunney was 6 ft 1 and Tunney was bigger.

 

:goodWell said,John.But there's something in my head that keeps saying Greb deserves a mention due to his resume.:good

 

It sounds like Greb vs Jones or Hopkins would be awsome defo a dream fights after the stuff ive been reading about Greb also hear is a report about the first fight between Greb and Tunney

In January of 1922, Gene Tunney defeated Battling Levinsky for the light heavyweight crown but lost it the following May to Harry Greb in perhaps the bloodiest fight I ever covered. A great fighter -- or brawler -- Greb handled Tunney like a butcher hammering a Swiss steak. How the Greenwich Village Irishman with the crew haircut survived 15 rounds I'll never know -- except that Tunney always enjoyed more and better physical conditioning than anybody he ever fought. By the third round, Gene was literally wading in his own blood. I saw Gene a few days later. His face looked as though he'd taken the wrong end of a razor fight. "You know," he said, "I must have lost nearly two quarts of blood in there." "Doc Bagley, a superb 'cut' man, managed to stop the bleeding only to watch Greb bust my face apart in the following round. It was discouraging," stated Tunney.​

 

Hey moron, just cause ali says it dont mean it proved ali is not the greatest of all times but hey I got no problem of ppl pick robinson over ali as the greatest but you just cant ignored ali greatness at hv in which imo was the best hv division maybe of all times. Beating the likes of patterson, norton, listen, frazier, young dangerous far bigger big goerge cant be ignored. But like I said I got no problem with ppl picking robinson over ali.

 

Foreman: 6'3 1/2, 220
Ali: 6'3, 216 1/2

How was Foreman "far bigger"?