How good was Dick Tiger?

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  1. vipers

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    school me on this guy please

    also what are his best fights?
     
  2. Eurolaser

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  3. teeto

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    great, not someone to brawl with in the main
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great. He put on methodical pressure and liked to counter opponents with big punches. Brawling with him usually did not end well, in fact never did, but he could be outpointed because of his economical footwork and workrate. He could still outpoint the best of them as shown against Giardello, Benvenuti and Torres.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9JE2EsTlg[/ame]
     
  5. Flea Man

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    ATG Middleweight, and a quality 175lber too.

    Not to be underestimated, and ****ing nails as well.
     
  6. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    Tiger's early career in Nigeria is sketchy at best. But if an African prospect were to go to England today and lose his first four in a row, he'd be dropped like a hot rock without even a plane ticket home.
     
  7. vipers

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    thanks for the vid also what where some good brawls of his?
     
  8. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arguably the strongest MW ever. Not the best ever MW, but among the top 10 and I see no MW in history being able to KO him or slug with him and come out on the winning end. Among the finer 175 lbers. as well.
    Simultaneously, while winning titles at multiple weights, he fought in the Biafran Revolution in his homeland of Nigeria. A warrior in the truest sense, like Contra fighter Arguello.
     
  9. vipers

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    would Hagler be able to out slug him?
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Tiger-Lamotta would be a war. Two strongest middleweights of all time with incredible work rates and chins.
     
  11. Manassa

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    Tiger was, I thought, slow on his feet, sometimes robotic and lacking in finishing ability. In front of a smart boxer he often looked befuddled.

    That said, he was immensely strong, possessed exceptional durability, endurance and determination, and had some of the quickest hands of any middleweight - particularly for a power puncher.

    On Tiger's power... It was excessive, but not according to his knockout percentage. As mentioned, his lack of finishing ability and slow feet (or economical footwork, whichever way you describe it) attributed to this, at least in my opinion, because otherwise he was a demon if you were in range. Though he could pounce on wounded prey, perhaps he lacked the accuracy or ingenuity to find the right shots to end the night...

    ... But he'd still bust you up. Simply put, Tiger was a true elite in one field - brawling. There's not one middleweight I'd choose to out slug him, bar Rodrigo Valdez and Jake LaMotta who'd be 50/50 and nothing more. That's something.

    Adding to Tiger's dominant physical prowess was a tight defence - he wasn't necessarily skilled at slipping and countering in a Roberto Duran sense, however, his method of attacking made him slippery or at worst a very tough shell to break. Typically, Tiger would attack with technically sound and poweful hooks from both sides, ducking in between, then resuming a solid guard and balanced feet as returned shots bounced right off him. A deceptive jab often opened up opponents.

    I think really that unless you were crafty or fleet footed enough to avoid his shots and land your own, Tiger would beat you. Any kind of 160lbs brawler I can imagine would likely be decimated - if not the victim of a knockout, then the victim of a very hurtful experience. Even so, his work rate and determination overcame some very savvy boxers, so I wouldn't be confident choosing anyone over him, much less even the greatest come-forward punchers.

    Tiger battered a very rugged era of middleweights.
     
  12. Manassa

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    A definitive 'no' would be my answer.

    Hagler was a good infighter in his own right, owing to his comprehensive grasp of all boxing skills including body punching, uppercutting, hooking and defending on the inside. Even so, Tiger hit every bit as hard and matched him for durability, stamina and heart, but had the extra speed and strength to have Hagler backing up.

    I don't think there'd be a choice for Hagler in how he could fight Tiger. He'd be forced to assume the role of boxer-mover.
     
  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His fight with Henry Hank is among the best in Middleweight history. You'll be amazed simply based on the fact that both men are standing by the end. Both men took some (or more appropriately, a lot) of ferocious shots. Hank was a huge puncher, too. Tiger just could not be ousted in that type of fight, no matter who was in front of him. A true tank of a fighter if ever there was one.
     
  14. 1899sharkey

    1899sharkey Boxings golden age Full Member

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    The first fight I ever watched on t.v. That hook Foster hit him with almost took his head off. I think he was middle and lightheavy champ, so he must have been very good at the least.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    No, I'm sure fighters with four losses in a row still get a lot of work in England.