Do people really think Dawson can beat Hopkins?

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  1. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Every time Hopkins fights he's an underdog. This has been going on for the last and best 6 years of his career. He has only ever lost to one southpaw who was p4p number 1 at the time. I'm not complaining but I just don't get how people are so thick.
     
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  2. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    honestly...yes...he CAN....but will he? that is the real question.
    Chad Dawson has excellent hand speed, height, range, defensive capabilities...youth & the experience of losing a big fight...he is now hungry...

    but does he have an aggressive mentality now? or high work rate?
    He needs all of these to beat Bhop
     
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  3. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would like to see Hopkins win but its a tough fight for him. Plus Hopkins could hit the wall at anytime he is getting very old. Look at what Taylor did to Hopkins, Dawson can do some of the same things but is more athletic and bigger and Hopkins has aged a lot since the Taylor fights.
     
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  4. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, he can but it's more like 5/1 than 4/5 like the bookies have it. He's lost the fire lately and Hopkins is great against southpaws.
     
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  5. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins was drained against Taylor. Dawson has greater size and combination speed but not the p4p stamina, power and ring IQ that Taylor had at the time. Also Hopkins is very good against southpaws.
     
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  6. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dawson is gunna win!! hes guna actually throw high volume of punches tonight.
     
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  7. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was also 7 years or so younger and is now 46. I think Hopkins can win but Dawson is a tough challenge. Funny thing is I can imagine both Hopkins and Dawson winning the fight fairly easy. Will be interesting to see how things play out.
     
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  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Yes I really thought so...

    But now I read Dwyer picked Chad to win, so I'm starting to doubt it.
     
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  9. JunitoJab

    JunitoJab Antagonist Full Member

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    I believe he can
     
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  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes Pascal was dominating him in the rematch til he gassed

    As long as Dawson doesnt show the old man too much respect he will push him

    My guess is he will use a lot of movement and make the old man use his legs

    he has quick combinations and may even be more saftey first and defensive minded than Hopkins

    I get the idea that he will make Hopkins be the aggressor which may benefit Bernard on the cards

    but I think Dawson will win
     
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  11. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh

    Taylor was actually known for having poor stamina, often fading late in fights. His ring IQ was poor as well.
     
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  12. Andy McNab

    Andy McNab Boxing Addict banned

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    He can and he will. Wrong fight for Bernard.
     
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  13. Ilesey

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    Of course he can. Hopkins, despite being a freak, is 46 and Dawson is a cagey, rangy slick fighter. This is destined to be a close and contreversial decision in an uneventful fight. When the fight was initially announced I picked Hopkins. I still do but I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest if Dawson stole this down the stretch.
     
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  14. MrPeterson

    MrPeterson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get off Bernard's nuts he's going to eat punches for 12 rounds
     
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  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A.Maxx - I knew a ***** would say that. Taylor had great stamina back then and was p4p better than Dawson is now. Dawson lost to Pascal and has looked only about the same standard as Pascal of late. Difference is Hopkins great against southpaws and this is not in Dawson's backyard.
     
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