Am I the only one who thinks Chad Dawson should have been disqualified?

Wlad leans on his opponent all the time, its a very clever move because refs rarely pick up on it, i dont think its right to whine about a fighter taking matters into his own hands and lifting the weight off of his shoulders, not a believer in tit for tat but you could hardly blame chambers in that situation, the Chambers foul only came about because of Wlad's foul.

 

:deal

 

Punches did not cause Jameel McCline to be unable to continue against Nikolai Valuev when his knee randomly exploded, or whatever the hell it was that happened there.

Weird injuries happen in boxing. They're an unfortunate reality. Sometimes there isn't an easily classifiable (ie legal blow or foul) root cause that the outcome can be based on (ie a headbutt or a punch, to determine whether a fight-ending cut should send it to the cards after the minimum rounds to get past an NC, or be ruled a TKO).

When there's a random injury, not caused by a legal blow or a foul - and the injured guy can't continue - well, it sucks for him but he's lost by TKO. That's the custom in boxing.

I guess you disagree with it not being caused by a foul, though?

 

Dawson should definitely be DQ'ed. Just him grabbing Hopkings leg taking it away from him as he came up fast from a low position is all I need to see to know this is as illegal as it gets. A fast slick low leveraged body slam is still a body slam. The fact that it resulted in a painful injury makes it worse.

 

I do not blame Chambers but i also do not blame Dawson! Both times it is a foul.

That what i want to say. You cannot blame Dawson if you do not blame Chambers!

Wlad did not say any word, he landed hard on the canvas and Wlad was hurt at this time, but he got up and continuing fighting.

But if a fighter cannot continue after a foul, the fight should end NC in this case (before round 4 is complete.)

 

I think it would have been harsh to disqualify Dawson for his foul. Yes he dumped Hopkins on the canvas leading to the injury but he wasn't looking to hurt Hopkins just simply discourage Hopkins from holding on so much which was probably beginning to frustrate him.

A N.C would have been the fairest option. A TKO win for Dawson or a DQ win for Hopkins would be too harsh a decision based upon what transpired in the ring.

 

First I want to say that B-Hop is a legend and all thread about him should be started in the classic boxing forum.

That said DQ Dawson for that would have been a disgrace. The kid responded to a dirty tactics with some of his own and at worst he could have been taken a point. Cotto did a worst foul against Clottey the same for Eddy Chambers against Wlad. Hop is just old (school) and his body could not take it.

 

I see your point there IB, it's just tough luck with a fighter gets legally injured; and I suppose my issue is that it was just an overly aggressive shove and should be a foul. Normally in those situations, the fighter stays low and waits for the ref, or tries to pull out of a clinch, or shoves off the chest with his hands. Using the shoulder upwards and outwards hard enough to cause a fall is for me classification for a foul. Some shoves are just too violent for boxing. You can shove and push on the inside, it's going to happen no matter what, but it was so fluid and aggressive in the video that to me that kind of an injury-inducing event can't be legal. Will other fighters now not hesitate to shove off other fighters violently in hopes they will get a victory?

 

P.S. you can not score fights for **** but I still respect you as a poster

 

"Run and hold" Hopkins...

Can't wait for Pacquiao to bodyslam Floyd..

 

Man a lot of guys in the forum congratulate Chambers for doing it. But when you do it on a robotic easter european is ok