You cannot have a TKO from a non boxing related injury

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by elTerrible, Oct 16, 2011.


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  1. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Hopkins didnt go down from a punch, he went down from a throw. It should be a "No Decision" as it was before the 4th round as Harold Letterman said.

    Theres a reason the commission escorted the ref out and wouldnt let Max and his microphone near him.
     
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  2. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    couldnt agree more
     
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  3. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Solis v Vitali. I realise that was a vitali "glove punch knee buster" but that falls into the same category surely?
     
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  4. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But yes. I agree with you I suppose. There is a fine line there though, and at what point is it unfair on the other guy?

    This fight certainly is one that seems very very strange to be recorded as a TKO.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Tell Jameel McCline.
     
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  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Yes you can...how was Vitali beaten by Byrd, did Byrd hit him in the shoulder causing him to lose? What about if a guy out of exhaustion can't answer the bell for a round? What if he trips walking to the corner, blows out his knee, and can't answer the bell...He's going to quit that's what, and it will be ruled a TKO. Hopkins quit, he wasn't fouled deliberately or accidentally, he was "injured" and quit...period.
     
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  7. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali injured himself in the act of legal boxing and could not continue. He was not fouled or thrown to the canvas, WHICH IS ILLEGAL!!!!!!:deal
     
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  8. kirk

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    To me, if you cant continue, as long as its not from an illegal punch, elbow, ect, then its ruled a tko.

    Saying a fight goes to a NC just because a fighter cant continue on some obscure injury gives waaaaaay too many outs to an overmatched opponent to take. It keeps opponents from doing exactly what many (not really myself) think hopkins did.

    Anyone remember the Valuev vs McCline fight?

    McCline hurts his knee early on and couldnt continue... they didnt just say its a NC... no, it becomes a RTD victory for the other fighter.

    This isnt new.
     
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  9. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i don't agree. Solis would have never wobbled and fell if he never got hit. Punch=fall=hurt knee.
     
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  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Thrown to the canvas? :lol:


    Hopkins was thrown OFF of Dawson... why? Because he was lunging, leaning, and trying to push Dawson down, like he always does.

    Great mentality for a fighter to have eh... if your opponent keeps mauling you, grabbing you, pushing you down... dont do anything about it, no... just let it happen and wait for the ref :lol:
     
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  11. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that would be correct with couple amendments:
    - opponent actions caused the injury
    - the injury was caused by means other than a clean punch
     
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  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    If a fighter cant continue, unless its from an illegal blow, its a RTD victory for other boxer.
     
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  13. Ashstrodamus

    Ashstrodamus Rodney Dangerfield of ESB Full Member

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    Jefferson/Maskaev also. Same ****, well sorta.

    I can't believe anyone is actually thinking it should be overturned. The Mayweather debacle was worse if you ask me.
     
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  14. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    That KO was Bull****!
     
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  15. im2risky

    im2risky Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. They will overturn the outcome to a NC. These refs are ****in up!
     
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