Not interested in your deflections or attempted QED. Above is ashley's quote. Below that is your quote stating the full name of the title that Mundine is fighting Alvarez for according to the very organisation that owns the title. I don't see the word "World" anywhere in it's description. Yooooooooooooooou loooooooooose LULZZ!!! :hi:
Nice try chess master wat does WBA stand for? That will probably explain alot looooooooserrrrr! LULZZ!
.so we are in agreement, mundine is fighting for the World boxing association interim title. LULLZZZ!!!! Geez Irnie didn't think I had to spell everything out for u.
The "World" in "World Boxing Association" is an adjective used to describe the boxing association, not the title you dumb ****. The "interim" is the adjective used to describe the title LULLLZZZ!!!!!! :hi:
I think this Mundine v Alvarez bout could surprise and be one of the better local fights of the year. But it is still only an eliminator for the right to challenge Austin Trout. Let's not encourage the WBA into thinking we believe it's any more than that or they'll soon be claiming they have 4 champions in each division. Then 5. Then 6.
But are we in agreement? Typical of Irnie to tell the true not the truth. I didn't think I had to explain the how one would consider it a world title (Again my fault for giving u too much credit) because obviously the WBA is an international sanctioning bOdy and naturally their titles are considered international / world titles, unless specified otherwise. in the case of this scenario it will be stated clearly so speds like u can't fuk it up.
:deal Even Gav (Lead Right), one of the biggest Mundine nut-huggers in the history of ESB can see through the bull****, and doesn't believe this fight is for a world title .
If Mundine rated this fight as being for a world title he'd be talking up that a win over Alvarez would complete the 3 world titles in descending order he's been aiming for with his Pioneer nickname. Instead, Mundine has been consistent in saying a win over Alvarez will give him the 'opportunity' to meet Trout and complete the 3 world titles in descending order. Plainly and unequivocally, Mundine himself DOESN'T see the Alvarez fight as being for a world title.
Further evidence that the Mundine vs Alvarez bout is NOT for a world title: From the WBA's own rule book: 30. Elimination Bout. The Championships Chairman may notify the two highest ranked available boxers, or the highest ranked available regional champions, or a combination thereof, of the obligation to meet in an elimination bout to become a mandatory contender, giving them dates by which the negotiations must commence and be concluded. In exceptional circumstances, the Committee may designate the elimination bout to determine a Mandatory Contender simultaneously as a bout to determine an Interim Champion solely under this rule. A Mandatory Contender who also serves as an Interim Champion may not engage in a bout to defend or otherwise place in contest the Interim Championship title nor may he unify the title with another or be recognized as a Unified Champion. My Comments: Firstly, there are no exception circumstances surrounding the Mundine vs Alvarez bout. Exceptional circumstances according to the WBA's own rules are: 'When a World Champion is unable to defend his title within the prescribed time periods for debilitating medical reasons, legal reasons beyond his control, or any other justifiable reason the inactive champion may be named a Champion in Recess'. (plainly none of this is the case when the reigning champion, Austin Trout, is fit, well, and about to defend against Frank LoPorto). Note also: 'A Mandatory Contender who also serves as an Interim Champion may not engage in a bout to defend or otherwise place in contest the Interim Championship title.' Conclusion: Under the WBA's own rules the Mundine vs Alvarez bout is an 'eliminator' to determine the 'mandatory contender', and there are no 'exceptional reasons' why, under the WBA rules, the bout should be deemed as for an 'interim' title. In any case the 'interim' title is 'not defendible' and is intended solely to match the 'interim' titleholder with the 'regular' champion. The only conclusion that can be drawn under the WBA's own rules is this fight is NOT for a world title. In any case the 'interim' title is not defendible', and that is plainly why even Mundine himself isn't claiming the fight's for a world title.
Chb I realize wat it is. I could bring up evidence of arces defending his interim title but it would b pointless as I don't want to actually defend the piece of **** that the interim belt is. it is an eliminator but WBA have turned it into a sort of prize where at the end of a fight the winner gets a belt and can call himself the WBA interim champion. And it appears the only time the interim champion is not regarded as a sort of champion is wen he faces the regular champ. It's a farce and u can blame the wba but at the end of the day that's not the point. I'm done with arguing this shitty poin that I don't like the whole deal with all these champs in 1 w8 division is bull**** but strictly speaking if mundine wins ash was right.
Arce was WBC. The WBA's own rules preclude the Arce situation occurring: 'A Mandatory Contender who also serves as an Interim Champion may not engage in a bout to defend or otherwise place in contest the Interim Championship title'
The only thing the winner of Mundine vs Alvarez gets is the mandatory position to fight the regular world champion. They DON'T even win anything they can even defend atsch. The claim that the Mundine vs Alvarez bout is for a world title is so pathetically futile even Mundine himself ISN'T claiming it. That's why Mundine, in his endeavour to win world titles in 3 descending weight divisions, is NOT claiming the Alvarez bout can obtain that distinction for him. He is only saying a win against Alvarez can provide him the 'opportunity' to do the 3 title thing against Trout. NOT EVEN MUNDINE IS CLAIMING THE ALVAREZ FIGHT IS FOR A WORLD TITLE .