Does Froch go above Calzaghe if he beats Ward?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rob887, Oct 17, 2011.

  1. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,546
    Likes Received:
    0
    Does Froch go above Calzaghe if he beats Ward?
     
  2. OPBF

    OPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,821
    Likes Received:
    0
    No. Hopkins alone is a better scalp on the record.
     
  3. Baldwin

    Baldwin Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    4,343
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think. He is fighting top dog after top dog. Joe C was good but overated and fighting washed up jones just shows he wasnt fighting the best Of the best.

    The cobra is a warrior. Straight up badass iron chin killer
     
  4. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2011
    Messages:
    17,987
    Likes Received:
    2
    he aint beating ward
     
  5. Baldwin

    Baldwin Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    4,343
    Likes Received:
    0
    Every legend has a loss. FACT.

    He ran when the 168 D was loaded with great fights for him and he ducked them all
     
  6. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2009
    Messages:
    10,224
    Likes Received:
    2
    he's above calzaghe without even beating ward
     
  7. Beezy

    Beezy 2 Eazzy Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2010
    Messages:
    4,486
    Likes Received:
    1
    Well Calzaghe was arguably the best at 168 for a while so Froch would have to avenge his lost to Kessler or beat Bute to prove he is the best currently.. then i would most likely put him ahead of Calzag on the ATG list
     
  8. make_the_weight

    make_the_weight Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    6,433
    Likes Received:
    26
    Froch has more determination to fight the best without a doubt, in that regard he could be better but overall not yet
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    54,515
    Likes Received:
    121
    No he needs a few more wins on resume but he's not to far off ..
     
  10. GTWOSIX

    GTWOSIX Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2010
    Messages:
    1,072
    Likes Received:
    0
    Froch and Bute
     
  11. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,546
    Likes Received:
    0
    He can't beat himself.:huh
     
  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2007
    Messages:
    17,255
    Likes Received:
    14
    Froch needs to prove he is the best SMW first, he ain't gonna do that without
    beating Bute. But then Calzaghe is still in front of him until he move up and beat
    the crap of some old and rich guy like Hopkins or Jones Jr.

    So Its like three wins for Froch until he surpasses JC.
     
  13. OPBF

    OPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,821
    Likes Received:
    0
    >top dog after top dog

    No. He beat a complete husk of a Taylor.
    He then had a really tough win vs Dirrell who had less real fights than Lacy did.
    He then beat Pascal who an older Hopkins clowned twice.
    He then beat an AA who started complaining he shouldn't even be fighting at 168.
    Then Kessler freaking beats him with a broken sense of vision and a messed up body.
    Heck, his future opponent's claim to fame is beating a rusty Kessler with developing broken sense of vision and being American.

    That's about it.

    These aren't top dogs at all. They're just dogs that are there.
     
  14. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,546
    Likes Received:
    0
    Beating Roy Jones now isn't going to prove anything, just as it didn't for Calzaghe.
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    37,210
    Likes Received:
    6,766
    I just need to see the two in the ring to know Froch has more potential than Calzaghe ever had. If Froch beats Ward and then defends another 4-5 times against top 10 fighters then he's easily above Calzaghe.