What does Hopkins has to do to be ranked above Joe Calzaghe?

19th of April 2008 was the date, Super Joe fought Hopkins in Hopkins own backyard and beat him, dont just take my word for it its in the record books.

 

2008-04-19 Joe Calzaghe beat Bernard Hopkins in Las Vegas, USA by decision.

 

realsoulja you are missing something, the world knows that Super Joe is better than BHop, they fought, you may have missed it, Joe Calzaghe won, Joe Calzaghe beat Hopkins.

 

Hopkins caught joe early an sent him to the canvas, that is about all you can give hopkins credit for in that fight, i thought joe won 9 out of 12 rounds, an maybe was robbed of a TKO when hopkins had to get that extra breather in there after he was DOGGY STYLED by the Italian Dragon (ha ha ha ha ha)

If they fought 10 times, hopkins wouldn't of won once.....

Better joe prime for prime

Note on hopkins, being a p4p boxer in your late 40's,,,outstanding, but in the end he could be in his early 30' or mid 30's when he came in his prime, an he would still LOSE....

 

No different at all. Try and spin it as much as you want. You know yourself Eubank went into training for Prince, so thats not retirement. You make it sound like Eubank came out of retirement for Calzaghe when thats not the case

Right so now Jones was fresh after coming down from HW atsch

Never disagreed, but lets not try and blow it into more than it is. Also lets remember theres a loss to a past prime Jones and journeyman Johnson

Once again, based on what? A close dec loss away and a SD loss away to the same fighter. That doesnt sound like a faded veteran when he has lost a debated dec to a world champ and a SD to the same champ

Yes but not back then. But as said you wouldnt know that and are debating a subject you dont know anything about :-(

Once again you are Boxrecing, because as I have explained to you. Prince was a more well known fighter than Calzaghe, even featured on fights of the year.
You can do a bit of research and tell me what the fight was now

The difficulty was as you know. Tarver gained weight for Rocky 6 then had to lose it fast for the Hopkins fight. If you deny that and cant get your head round that, then you just cant debate the subject.

Based on a magazine .
So when Hopkins was semi retired after Pavlik, did you rate G Johnson above Hopkins when Hopkins was fighting Ornelas? I doubt it

This is where you are trying to debate about something you are Boxrecing .
Did you see when Thompson won his world title in Germany? Of course you didnt.
Why dont you tell me how Hopkins lost to R Rocchigiani first time around. You can Boxrec it.
Thompson also went on to KO Rothmann who was world rated and D Haye and that cant be denied.
The fact that you are reffering to Thompsons early losses tells me you dont really know. Tell me about the Ashley loss and explain why it was a bad loss

Of course I get it. But you are comparing someone who only had 2 more fights against a world champ 2 weights higher to a fighter that has had several fights at his regular weightand built up some of those numbers with easy fights

:think So Eubank at 31 is a faded veteran for a debated away loss and a SD away loss to one fighter whilst Tarver at 37 and a half and having lost to Harding, faded Jones and journeyman Johnson was still good . Cant recall Eubank losing to anyone as bad as Harding

 

You never saw him atsch.

If you did you would know that Prince was amore well known popular fighter than Calzaghe back then.
No he didnt turn out to be better but he was better known and promoted.

 

I havent said better or worse. This is the problem when you lie.
What I do thins amusing is that you rate a former CW body punching a former SFW as an amazing stoppage atsch

 

Realsoulja - Cant we just ignore that part of history

 

No controversy realsoulja, one judge scored it 116-111 to Calzaghe and another judge scored it 115-112 to Calzaghe, it was in the States as well, Calzaghe only had one more fight and retired, hands were shot, motivation on the wain, Hopkins on the other hand had just beaten Tarver and Wright and then beat Pavlik in his next fight, between me and you they are American fighters you know over hyped, but anyway Calzaghe beat Hopkins and i will tell you something else Joe Calzaghe beats any version of Hopkins, because putting it simply Calzaghe is better than Hopkins.

 

come on man. Hopkins is miles above Calzaghe. I think Hopkins middleweight run and Calzaghe's SW run are equal. But Hopkins did a lot more after it.

 

Failey, you're getting destroyed. Keep talking, maybe nobody will notice.