Amir Khan vs. Lamont Peterson II Build-Up Thread! - WASHINGTON D.C PRESS CONF INSIDE

Yeah but you talking about when they fought at 130, Pacman is a different animal at these higher weights and JMM just is not, this fight JMM is going to take a retirement beating mark my words.

 

No, I'm talking about now. JMM, in his fights at lightweight where he would walk in the ring at the same size/weight that Pacquiao's been doing recently, has proven to still be a masterful boxer. Nothing has changed there. Despite Pacquiao becoming a beast now, JMM will still offer him a more formidable challenge than those other lesser skilled fighters would. It's not all about size and strength, you know.

 

By the way, I found the below from ESPN:

Amir Khan has revealed a rift has formed between his representatives and stable-mate Manny Pacquiao's team, sparking rumours the close friends could meet in the ring.

Khan and Pacquiao train out of the same Wild Card gym in Los Angeles and are both coached by revered trainer Freddie Roach. The fighters have always got along well and been supportive of each other when preparing for their respective challenges, regularly sparring together and going on arduous runs side by side.

Both men have always affirmed they would never clash in the ring but, with relationships between the opposing camps appearing to sour, clamour for a mega-fight could soon start in earnest.

Members of Pacquiao's corner have banned the Bolton-born fighter from sparring with their man and the pair no longer train at the same time. Khan, who is preparing to defend his IBF and WBA light-welterweight titles against Lamont Peterson in Washington DC on December 10, admits there is tension with Pacquiao's camp.

"It's strange," he told the Bolton News. "There's tension in the camp. My team are cool and I'm just concentrating on Peterson but his team seem to be worried.

"His camp don't want me sparring with him and now we train at different times. It's like they're keeping us apart. We still see each other when one comes and the other goes, and have a quick chat, but it's not how it used to be. It's like his people are thinking there could be a fight between us."

Khan has made his intentions to move up to 147lbs after the Peterson clash clear, with the 24-year-old already targeting a super-fight with the unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr in 2012.

Despite the Brit stating regularly that a fight with Pacquiao would not be viable, recent developments suggest an unexpected showdown could be moving closer.

Khan said: "Manny's never been on my radar. We're good friends and I'd never want to put Freddie and Alex [Ariza, his conditioner] in that position. I would prefer to fight Mayweather but so many fights happen nowadays you just never know."

 

Anyway, what the **** is Laz up to? We're doing his job for him. He's become a real slacker, recently.

 

I disagree JMM at 145 vs Floyd looked slower and his timing was off, Floyd toyed with him, size does matter, fact being Pacman at this weight has great power and his power comes from the higher weight, the power he had at 130 to his power now is levels higher.

Funny that JMM did not want to face Khan at 140, yet he agree's to fight Pacman at 144, I really question his motives, this is for money?

 

It's a stylistic challenge, agreed.
I don't see Marquez being difficult to beat. Pacquaio is how ever many years better than when they last met, where-as Marquez is that many years older.

Marquez isn't a big lightweight, as seen by him being the smaller man when taking on people such as Katsidis and Diaz.

I'll explain that Pacquaio's skill set is still not as evolved as Marquez's, (very few fighters are) but Pacquaio now shows greater ring generalship, and has more offensive tools, such as the vastly improved right hand, and body punches.

Physical attributes are going to be the deciding factor, Pacquaio's hitting harder and arguably just as fast, I think that if he hurts Marquez this time, then he finishes him. I see it going 8 rounds. Marquez will find openings, he's too skilled not too, but Pacquaio's superior speed and power carry the day.

 

Pac isn't any more powerful, his opponents are just slower so he can land hard, sharp shots. Other than the Hatton KO, he's not taken any opponents out. He's heavy-handed, but not destructive like he was at the lighter weights.

If your point is that Khan will get more powerful as he climbs in weight, well consider that he decked Maidana, but never hurt him again after that. Ortiz was able to hurt Maidana more (but in fairness, he was committing boxing suicide by doing so that night). Khan's not a hard puncher, he's quick though and throws a lot, which can overwhelm lesser fighters.

I can't remember him scoring a genuine stoppage at 140 other than Salita - who was a chinny guy anyway.

Moving up in weight might encourage him to sit down on his shots more, but he'll lose other advantages too.

 

love how khan paints the picture that its pacmans corner causing the problem ....i think itys proberly the other way round ,knowing the muppets that khan has around him

 

Roach has already stated that Pac's team don't want him sparring Khanatsch

 

Funny that I have heard this from Roach also that members of Pac's camp dont want Khan sparring Pacman I can post the link if you want.

 

JMM has repeatedly said he prepared totally wrong for a Mayweather - who he assumed would outweigh him by a great deal. Instead of working to a weight which his body would be at its most effective, he tried to get bigger and match Floyd’s weight. That’s why he probably looked as slow as he did. Mayweather being faster and more skilled to begin with, probably didn’t help, either.

But this time round, he knows he’s up against a guy who’s almost the same size. It’s not like Pacquiao has magically grown 5 inches of height and reach, you know. On fight nights now, he weighs just 3 pounds heavier than what he weighed against JMM when they fought back at super featherweight. 3 ****ing pounds. There won’t be any need for JMM to try and match him in weight or anything. He comes in at 145 normally, and this time round he’ll make sure he reaches that 145 more efficiently. Pacquiao is favoured heavily this time round because he has improved tremendously and is more effective when not draining himself. Not because JMM isn’t good enough or is all of sudden going to be rendered useless because of the weight.

And the reason why JMM bypassed Khan to remain in the chance to fight Pacquiao, is because, quite simply, it was a better opportunity. He wasn’t ever obliged to face Khan like a Tim Bradley was. So why risk it over a more lucrative and meaningful fight against his old adversary, Pacquiao? Nothing funny about it, at all.

 

The only muppet is you, mate.

It's been widely reported that Pac's handlers have told Roach to not let the two spar. This has been going on since Pac-Marg.

 

You will see what's funny when Pacman KO/ or gives out beating to JMM Nov 12th, then you will see what I mean, it's will be a beatdown.

 

That's not something I'm dismissing. But if it happens, it'll be because of Pacman's brilliance. Not JMM's supposed unworthiness of being in the ring with him. Pac woud inflict the same beating on Berto, Ortiz, Bradley and Khan.

 

No, Roach said Khan got the better of the first couple of rounds and then Manny adjusted and took it to Amir. Several reporters have also noted that Khan's been rocked and dropped by non-punchers in sparring.

But it doesn't matter - sparring is not fighting in the ring.