Boxing Films

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  1. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Im a collector of fight films. I particularly enjoy the vintage films and rarities, especially those from the turn of the century. As I research my book, and just boxing in general, I always keep a little tab of the fights that were filmed way back when that have never surfaced. Recently I began to go back and just poke around, specifically looking for old fight film advertisements and mentions in the old newspapers. I have to say its really depressing how many of the old films have not survived.

    On the one hand we are spoiled as fans of boxing because the amount of filmed footage and coverage of the sport we have from the beginning of film is literally unprecidented in any other sport. No sport has the kind of coverage we have. Not even close. Yet, what we have thats survived, that seems like so much, is really just a fraction of what was filmed. Ive found instances where in the same town two theatres were playing two different fight films at the same time. Thats pretty incredible when consider in that day and age those movies usually went in and out on one week engagements.

    Some of the great fights and fighters were committed to film yet havent survived, and there are other instances where even though we have footage on a certain fighter what we dont have, that was committed to film, is so tantalizing.

    Dempsey-Fulton
    Fulton-Morris
    Gibbons-Bartfield
    Fulton-Weinert and complete undercard including Bill Brennan
    Berlenbach-McTigue and complete undercard
    Walker-Shade
    Wills-Firpo


    Those are just a few of the films Ive discovered, which wet the appetite.
     
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  2. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack Johnson vs Arthur Cravan was said to have been filmed.

    I agree there is perhaps none other sport so well-covered than boxing. We are very fortunate, which is why it frustrates me when people judge the "old timers" without taking the effort to view the fights that can be seen even on youtube nowadays.
     
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  3. Swarmer

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    How's Bartfield look?

    EDIT: NVM, guess you don't have it.
     
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  4. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bartfield looks fine... S,as I've posted before ,I and my dad met Soldier Bartfield in my Uncle's restaurant in 1945-6. Mu uncle introduced us to Bartfield,who playfully got me into a clinch and tattooed my ribs,until my dad pulled him off me.It hurt,and the 55 year old Bartfield was still in good shape.My ribs could attest to that..I'm proud to say I was pounded in the side by a guy who fought my idol Harry Greb, several times. The Soldier when he was fighting was a tough guy to beat....Also about that time shook hands with another tough hombre of that era, Italian Joe Gans.
    Tough guys from a TOUGH era....:hi:
     
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  5. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How does Dave Shade look?? Would love to see how that weird low crouch of his worked.
     
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  6. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Delisa found evidence Greb vs Walker played in Ohio during July 1925
     
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  7. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The movie that was made about Tiger Flowers disintegrated over the years.
     
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  8. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    i dont have those films, ive just found that they were filmed.
     
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  9. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    all ive got on shade is him traning (he could jump rope like a mofo... jumps just like duran) and sparring with dempsey. hes clever.
     
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  10. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nice. Is he doing that exaggerated bob n' squat that I've read so much about? I saw a pic of him once way down on his haunches. Guy musta had strong legs. He probably resembled a pugilistic jack in the box. His fight with the bouncy Jimmy Slattery probably resembled two storks doing a mating dance.
     
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  11. klompton

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    i dont recall him crouching when he sparred but its been a while since ive seen it. he jumped rope in a deep crouch/squat. it was pretty crazy to see.
     
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  12. Flea Man

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    Nice thread.
     
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  13. The Spider

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    Some of the more recent fight films have been pretty good. The Fighter was excellent and Russell Crowe as the Cinderella Man was also good.
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    Maybe read the thread before replying mate :D
     
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  15. The Spider

    The Spider Guest

    The thread title is Boxing Films. I didn't realise the thread police would accost people if they had the temerity to mention recent films :lol:
     
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