Lennox Lewis: Was he really out of shape agaisnt Vitali?

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  1. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was 37 years old against Vitali. Obviously, 37 is not prime for any heavyweight fights. But's it also isn't ancient. We are now seeing fighters in decent shape past age 40. Lennox had 43 fights, which isn't a devastating career.

    Lewis was 256 pounds against Vitali. He was 250 against Frans Botha. 6 pounds is enough to say he's out of shape? I think 6 pounds is meaningless for a heavyweight.

    Lewis had not been in the ring for 12 months. Well, he also wasn't in the ring for 9 months between his fight against Ray Mercer and Oliver McCall in 1995/1996.

    Or maybe did the three factors combine to produce an out of shape Lewis in june 2003?
     
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  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He stopped Vitali in sixth.
     
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  3. Boxed Ears

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    Not as much as Vitali was for Arreola. I know that much.

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  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    While Lewis was 1-2% heavier than at his best it's a bunch of BS to say he was "fat" or "out of shape".

    What one has to say though is that Lewis was mentally in a good place. I've never seen a more committed, more passionate and more risk-taking Lewis. The good thing (for us fans) was that he grossly underestimated Vitali and that's why it turned out to be a killer fight.

    Compare his mental attitude to the **** safety first fight he brought against Tua or the terrible hugfests vs. Holyfield. Lewis was only an exciting fighter when he believed he was vastly superior to his opponent -- that's when he took risks and let sparks fly.
     
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  5. Spearmint Rhino

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    I think he was slightly out of shape, yes.

    He was only 6lbs heavier than a year previous but he looks a tad softer all over, obviously muscle is heavier than fat.

    He wasn't as soft as (say) Bowe was for the Holyfield rematch compared to his condition in the first fight.
     
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  6. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    He was in good shape for his age. A few extra pounds on a 6'5 frame is nothing really.

    Lewis TKO6 Vitali (got in before the trolls)
     
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  7. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Fat ******* should be ashamed of himself.
     
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  8. Fightfan200

    Fightfan200 New Member Full Member

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    Yea he was Lewis would have koed him in 3,but Lennox always lacked disipline in his career until he lost look at Mccall 2 and Rahman 2,the Lewis that was in the second Rahman fight i would favor against any Hw in history he was that good.
     
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  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    not again...

    this fight needed a rematch sooo bad, it's not even funny anymore :-(
     
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    How out of shape do you have to be to turn the entire atmosphere a dull gray, because even the air is depressed? :verysad
     
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  11. Thomas!!

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    Lewis TKO6
     
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  12. Blake Rayne

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    **** off troll i already beat u too it
     
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  13. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it is funny.

    People crying about clear loss after eight years
     
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  14. Blake Rayne

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    I don't understand but I assume it's funny as per usual.
     
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  15. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali blitzed Lewis early because he surprised Lewis with how good a boxer he was. Lennox I don't think was ever in a fight were he wasn't the better technical boxer, let alone when he faced another Goliath. If Lewis was out of shape he would not have been able to survive the early onslaught and come back into the fight against a beast like Vitali.
     
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