If Narvaez does beat Donaire...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Oct 19, 2011.


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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    He arguably is one already.
     
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  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wait a minute, if Narvaez is a lock as a Hall of Fame, and Donaire beats him in emphatic fashion, would this be considered a big win for Donaire? That would mean he's beaten 3 future HoF fighters, right?
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Yeah, and if Wladimir Klitschko beat Ivan Calderon it would be a big win because Calderon is future HOF!!!
     
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  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    It will still be a gigantic upset for sure; all I'm saying is that if it isn't a fluke, it won't look like one. Biggest upset of the year for sure.


    Not sure about fighter of the year though. That usually depends on a higher level of consistency.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    What higher level of consistency do you want? :huh

    He repelled three world title challengers ALREADY this year, before moving up in weight to challenge Donaire.

    Are you sure consistency is really the word you were looking for?
     
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  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Well, consistency and quality. It may propel him up the P4P rankings, but these world title challengers don't seem high enough themselves P4P for the institution to realistically consider granting him fighter of the year.

    He may in reality deserve it with the win over Donaire on top of it, but without more big names over the course of the year, it would be hard to get that achievement. Although this year hasn't really seen a fighter of the year, so maybe you're right.
     
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  7. Doc

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    Salido was no bum and no it would different...

    Juanma was a a lot of hype that salido derailed.

    Donaires by everyone's opinion is a special talent that no one at the lower weights can touch a P4P great who should break no sweat in this 25/1 fight.

    Also I think it would be win of the year... but would he actually win fighter of the year? IDK...

    what If Marquez beats PAC :hey
     
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  8. JoeCamelTow

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    SI SE PUEDE:bbb
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

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    The three defenses by themselves make his 2011 resume better than all but those of maybe a dozen other people in the entire sport. (ironically, because of CONSISTENCY more than any one of them being a spectacular win...just three very solid ones. In descending order: Seda B+, Urina B, Zaleta B-. How many people fit in three world title defenses against guys in the B range of quality in one single calendar year?). Add the A++++++ win that Donaire would be, and he's a lock for BOTY.

    Nobody else would have a win to match his win over Donaire (or to even come close), no matter what happens in November and December. Nobody else would be 4-0 on the year against top world-ranked opposition of no lower than B minus quality.

    Going by quantity of important bouts, quality of opposition in those bouts and consistency of performances against that opposition in those bouts (Seda gave him some difficulty, but Seda's really good IMO and will come by a world title eventually) - Narvaez would have to be the forerunner no matter how he beats Donaire.
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 20, 2011
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  10. IntentionalButt

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    Heed me!! :cus
     
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  12. Peppermint

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    Narvaez does have a rat-tail, so he must not be overlooked :deal
     
    Peppermint, Oct 21, 2011
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  13. IntentionalButt

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    Yes! This will be Tszyu-Judah all over, I can feel it. :yep
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

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  15. jordan1

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    Donaire odds have moved up to -3500
     
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