Is Sven Ottke HOF worthy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rob887, Oct 19, 2011.


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  1. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ouch.:lol:

    To be honest, I think you very much overate a lot of these fighters at this weight around this time. You really do put a lot of them on a pedestal where they just don't belong. You elevate a win, which in the grand scheme of boxing history, is pretty far below average at best, into some sort of great legendary scalp.

    There are plenty of more worthy fighters for the HOF than Ottke in my opinion. As stated, I'd certainly have Benn and Eubank in front of him in the line.
     
    Rob887, Oct 22, 2011
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  2. danieljenkins

    danieljenkins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imagen what carl froch would of done to this guy ochhh
     
    danieljenkins, Oct 22, 2011
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who have I overated?

    B Mitchell -
    2 time WBA SMW champ
    He beat
    - #1 Liles (something Ward is praised for doing) by KO. Liles was linear champ and on a winning run of 8 world title fights with Nunn being a victim
    - drew with future 2 weight champ Girard
    - beat Siaca twice who went on to become WBA SMW champ who beat Mundine
    - beat former MW champ JC Green who beat a prime Joppy before Joppy was beaten by Trinidad or Hopkins.

    Mitchell only lost by SD to Ottke and was only ever beaten clearly once as a SMW.

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    Heres an old post of mine about Ottke

    1. It was only Ottkes 13th fight when he won a world title

    Consider how A Ward is raved about. Ward has had 24 fights, by this time Ottke had made 11 defences.
    If Johnson beats Froch he will be in the S6 finals and if Ward was to beat Johnson it would be considered a big win, but Ottke beat Johnson at SMW back in 99.

    2. Ottke made 21 title defences and was a winner of 22 world title fights

    Consider how Hopkins MW reign is thought to be special yet Ottke had more SMW title victories than Hopkins had MW victories and overall fought better opposition

    3. Ottkes reign was impressive when you consider he wasnt a puncher and didnt have an equalizer in his fists.

    Look at who Ottke with feather fists beat
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    bailey, Oct 22, 2011
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  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i agree that benn and eubank get in first, regardless of ottke's worth
     
    Jorodz, Oct 22, 2011
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  5. Rob887

    Rob887 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With the exception of Johnson who was finding his feet at the time, I can't say I rate any of those fighters too highly. Holding an alphabet title in a shallow division automatically doesn't make a boxer great. Also, a fighter doesn't get bonus points for being feather fisted.
     
    Rob887, Oct 26, 2011
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  6. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I watched him fight Reid , Starie , Brewer and Mitchell

    I thought he lost three of the above clearly and had the Starie fight very close.

    Not sure how somebody only fighting in their own back yard with their own personal ref and judges can be allowed to build such a record.

    Definately not worthy of anything other than the ' hometown champion of the world' title.
     
    rayrobinson, Oct 26, 2011
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  7. TYSON DURAN

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    Not a chance
     
    TYSON DURAN, Oct 26, 2011
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  8. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope he didn't try to fight top oppositions and some of his fights were robberies.
     
    hussleman, Oct 26, 2011
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  9. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    remember when sky covered the david starie fight.

    they asked him about calzaghe.

    he pretended he didn't even know who he was.

    the fact he retired without even seeking out the fight sums him up.

    no way a hall of famer. :bart
     
    hitman_hatton1, Oct 26, 2011
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  10. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did seek out a fight with Calzaghe, but Calzaghe didn't want to travel even though Ottke was the undisputed no.1 so you are wrong.
     
    BatTheMan, Oct 26, 2011
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  11. RJJ's Jab

    RJJ's Jab Guest

    Hell yeah too many Ottke haters for my liking in Boxing, I'm also a huge Erdei fan BTW.
     
    RJJ's Jab, Oct 26, 2011
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  12. GrizzyBeard

    GrizzyBeard Guest

    trolling
     
    GrizzyBeard, Oct 26, 2011
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  13. RJJ's Jab

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    Froch getting his ears boxed off, Obviously.
     
    RJJ's Jab, Oct 26, 2011
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