Hopkins-Dawson

I am just quoting the WBC Board of Governors who voted unanimously that he intentionally lifted Bernard up and pushed him. Many have done this, for instance, Evander in the first Lewis fight when Lennox leaned on him at the end of the 1st and Arthur Mercante Jr called them together and warned them both after the bell. Bernard was not playing anything dirty for Chrissake, even tho I admit he's dirty and tricky most of the times. Imperial, you miss with your right counter, you r not going to give your right side to the lefty so he leaned on his back. No need for the rest. Dawson is not to blame directly for what happened afterwards but he and you cannot say it was a way out. Chad a bull to lift charge sure. As for hitting and eating punches, well, I kinda doubt it... But put him against Tavoris in a punchout and let's see who hits the canvas first.

 

I really think Hopkins is to blame for all this considering he did that against Jones and Calzaghe ..He had a history of doing this but this time his ego knew he was in over his head ..

This is why he pulled the act ..And as far as anything the WBC does well lets just say that that organization has all the credibilty of say a boxing promoter ! Hopefully we get a rematch so this unfinished business can get settled !

 

Hopkins clinched like eight times in two minutes in the second round. He's not dirty? His three punch combination is throwing the straight right, leading with his head, and clinching. And before he was tossed down, look what he did. He threw a straight right, charged into Dawson with his head, and tried to clinch while Dawson was ducking, but ended being lifted up.

Chad like Hopkins is a technician, why would he get into a punchout with Tavoris? I want to see Tavoris vs Hopkins if you think your boy Hopkins is so great.

 

Chad was obviously prepared for Hopkins, and was prepared for whatever Hopkins had in store for him. To say that Chad didn't have the patience is bs. Dawson was walking him down and everytime Dawson got near Hopkins clinched. Dawson throwing and landing his combinations would have eventually happened in the later rounds. Really Hopkins shouldn't have been injured, that wasn't a hard fall.

 

That Ref had his head up his ass, the fight should have been a DQ win for Hopkins..

Now i can see why not that many folks like Dawson, he's a whiny ****, who can't draw flies to a dupm...

 

Now I know why the ref called it a tko .

Rd 1 around the 1:33 mark Hopkins pulls off the first punch and grab . Dawson is heated, tells the ref before the break "He's pushing me down "

"Ref warns Hopkins don't push him down " Next time he tries this its in the 2nd round ..Hopkins then can't continue .. Yet some people still want blame Chad for all this ? Hopkins had been previously warned .


Another thing not one of the ******ed HBO crew addressed the initial push .

 

Then why did they have to reaffirm such a separation with an MRI, which is usually done when radiographs cant find anything? GBP has a whole slew of quacks to his disposal. I originally defended the injury as legit but now Hopkins keeps claiming that the ref stopped the Dawson fight because of a so called obvious lump on the shoulder but it was actually Hopkins that mentions this lump right after the ref asks him if he can continue.

Oh and Hopkins lunged in to use his body as a weapon. Then he tried to wear Dawson down by pancaking on his back a putting his forearm into his neck, Yet the WBC, CAC, HBO, and GBP say that Dawson made the foul.

Any boxer that fights against GBP in California is simply foolhardy. I mean California and WBC/Sulaiman ripped off of Bradly against Campbell, rip off of Vitally against Louis, rip off of Toney against Rahman, lied against Margarito and ripped off a bunch of other fighter that I cant think of right now ?

 

Oh and HBO weeded out some of Kellerman's commentary from last week's live version

 

The manoeuvre of clinch in boxing simply has to do with the fact that the fighters can not remain at punch distance and able to defend their weakest spots for long periods. Hopkins is a smart fighter who breaks the action whenever he needs to and that is not being dirty. As far as the combination you talked about, it has nothing with being dirty at that time, 1 you lead with ur right hand against a lefty cause the angle of his body and of his head is wider and more open for that punch for an orthodox fighter, 2 you don't lead with your head but you close the distance and break the action by stepping forward fast and keeping your chin down tucked in, otherwise everybody knows that the function of a lefty and of an orthodox boxer when closing in is to bump heads. Hopkins did nothing but to walk laterally and try to find an opening to score with the right hand, Dawson did well by ducking the shot, then you r wrong that Hopkins led with his head - he simply broke the action by leaning on Dawson with both arms so that the ref would intervene. Happens that Chad intervened b4 the ref, didn't he? When I say that Hopkins uses the tricks and dirty moves is when he punches inside and in the blind side of the refereee, when he punches low, when he pushes his opponents down and so on... RJJ, and let's face it, Imperial1 is still suffering from that, lost his patience and hit him blatantly on the back of the head at least once and now Dawson slams him like Echols once did... I think Nard mostly pisses them off to the limits which is a smart thing to do.

I agree with you Ripple633 that both Dawson and Hopkins are technical and mentally disciplined boxers but since Imperial is saying Chad is a bull just cause he's tall, put him against Tavoris and let's see who bullies who.

 

How did Chad intervene? Hopkins was on top of Dawson brining his weight on top of Dawson, why should he wait for the ref? Dawson simply shoved him off. Now whether you think it was a violent shove (and it wasn't) doesn't matter, Hopkins shouldn't have gotten hurt from a fall like that. 95% of the time most boxers usually get up and continue fighting from a fall like that.

The ref did a bad job, he should have gave Hopkins more time to recover like in the Echols fight, or rule the fight an NC.

 

Man, you can slide off ur own floor today and I do hope it never happens to ur polite self and fall on your elbow and get that shoulder injury. What I do believe is that Hopkins has done too many, too often lately and people are getting suspicious. But we finally agree on something, Pat Russell is a bad referee, this is a very bad decision like the Khan-Judah decision was. You can't exactly know what took place and just cause someone can't get up in an instant, you start thinking about TV timetables, business promoters, judges and rules and you call it off justlikethat. And let's solve this once and for all between ourselves, Ripple633, forget Imperial cause he is a RJJ fan and you know how it is - he's expecting Bernard to get kayoed so that we can look back in the history books and he'll say Roy was better. Now, when Hopkins came off the ropes and clashed heads with Winky, he wasn't even looking at him and now Winky says he's dirty. I am saying that Bernard is dirty and still he's my fav fighter... Winky has nothing to talk about dirtyness and Scully has nothing to talk about old school or not. The fight would go on and it would go to the scorecards with either one of them taking it in a dull chess match and Chad's volume reduced to Hopkins'. I don't want to see them again. Hopkins is an elite, intelligent and crafty star, he may lose but he's no Antonio Tarver or Glen Johnson... And Chad not breaking a sweat doesn't mean ****.

 

Hopkin's is taking everything he can from the game and giving **** all back, his legacy is bein diminished with every new chapter of his late, late twilight career. The sun has gone down baby!

 

He's just finding weak ass ways not to get beat these days ! This is why he waited so long to fight the likes of Calzaghe and Jones ,another reason he avoided Chad as well .. Its like he gets into these fights and calls a time out with the acts ..Yet some people want call those moves "crafty " Oh I know we can't knock Hopkins if your a Tarver ,Calzaghe ,Jones or even Trinidad fan because im sure we are all bitter