The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

he doesn't do all the negotiating, but he is invovlved obviously

 

Your are assuming to much which is the problem as well as just stating false claims. You don't present facts to the table, and since they aren't facts I can poke holes in everything you stated. There isn't enough details or facts out for Mayweather to know that Pac would have an issue with blood testing. If we are to assume Mayweather did heavy research to find that information out. And if Mayweather did do major research wouldn't the fact that Pac blood tested for Ricky Hatton kind of throw a wrench in that whole master plan of being confident that Pac would have a problem with blood testing. The video evidence of Pac having trouble with blood testing was first posted for the American public on Dec 30th 2009 which is after blood testing became a problem for Pac. Maybe if your in the Philippines you can find earlier dates for that news source, but in America where Mayweather would have to do his research there is no source of that info posted earlier then Dec 30th 2009. You are also missing the point that Mayweather would be interrupting his own training as well so how would that be the mental edge if he would have to go through the same ****.

Its laughable that you say he tried venue as a mental edge or road block when it was Arum who was trying to push Cowboy Stadium on the fight. Which is a brand new stadium, with no boxing history run by his buddy Jones. While Vegas is the mecca of boxing and deserved to be the home of the biggest fight of the decade.

Again Mayweather would be messing with his own training for the Pac fight as well and would be tested just as much. So if Pac got tested everyday then Mayweather would be tested everyday. Right here you admitted that the assumptions about Mayweather and his testing done by Pac's team were false. You first claim that it was a master plan to get out of the fight or have a mental edge (which ever way you want to spin it when you feel its convenient). But then admit that the assumptions about the testing made by team Pac was wrong all along and if they didn't have these assumptions the first time then there wouldn't be a problem with drug testing. So its Mayweather's fault they had the wrong assumptions about drug testing?

The fact that your basically saying that they assumed things because they didn't have the details says everything. You state everything as fact like Mayweather was looking for a way out and Mayweather was looking to gain a mental edge. But what you really should be saying is that Pac's team assumed Mayweather was looking for a way out and assumed Mayweather was looking for the mental edge because of what they assumed the testing procedure was, which happen to be the wrong assumption.

How do you know they will follow the same pattern of testing fight to fight though. That wouldn't make sense or it wouldn't be random if they used the same exact pattern every fight. Fighters would easily be able to figure out the pattern. Say there is a pattern that they change fight to fight, its still random for the boxers even though USADA has there own patterns as the fighters don't know the dates that they will be tested or how many times.

Mayweather would make more money fighting Pac then anyone else period. There is no proof that Pac's team has agreed to full testing with no cut off date other then there word. Which has proven to be unreliable. Hoya and Greenburg saying its close doesn't give us any details to what they were offering.

You must understand that everything you wrote I could write against Pac and Arum. On how they used the drug testing to purposely be a roadblock to get out of the fight. How Arum doesn't want Pac to fight Mayweather as if he loses, he loses his only cash cow. How its more beneficial to Arum to have Pac fight in house fights which he can make money from both sides of the promotion then to have Pac fight Mayweather and risk losing. If one of his fighters defeats Pac then that guy is a star and he maintains the promotion of that new star. How they knew that the 14 day cut off was out the window since Mayweather said it on national TV. So they felt they could act like they are trying to make a fight in the 2nd negotiations, but really were just trying to put on a dog an pony show. How they looked to duck out of the Mayweather fight to fight Clottey for an in house fight. How Mosley & Marquez fights before even attempting to negotiate with Mayweather after forcing them to fight with TR to get the fight.

Doesn't mean that all that stuff is true, but this is basically what you did in your last post but with Mayweather.

 

*****s : Ross Greenburg and ODLH are liars. There were no 2nd negotiations.

 

No result yet ( Floyd/Ortiz OSDT ) from USADA ?:think

 

you realize that Floyd's has been looking stupid since his out of character episodes began.....all stemming from the "potential" fight with PAC. Floyd trains all year round....so do Olympic athletes.....You realize even they take vacations during their "ALL YEAR ROUND" training. If Floyd wants something bad enough....he'll do whatever it takes to get it or get it done. If cleaning up the sport is that important to him...if he wants to be a leader and set the standard...he'd have no issues doing what you think is "dumb" but would go a LONG way in cleaning up his image. It's all about what's important to Floyd and of course cleaning up boxing is NOT on his list.

 

"Can you smell what Travis is cooking?" (Most likely test results).

 

as a boxing fan and also a Pacfan, I want to see Pac fight fight the best, win or lose.

 

Hello all, I am new to this site. I've been thinking lately, and I know this is probably a topic that has been discussed before, who's resume is better? Floyd or Manny's? Discuss.

 

Don't think this has ever been discussed..

 

Your new? Whatever, I'll play along. pacquiao has the better names on his resume. The end

 

With this exact thread title? I don't think so!!!!!

It was usually who is better ATG, not better resume. Resume is just discussed with their ATG rankings, not their resume per se.

A new thread that is so obvious yet nobody could even make it until now.

 

Manny fought Morales coming off a mismatch loss to zahir rahim, and he ducked Zahir, Humberto Soto, Tim Austyn, Mark Johnson...He intentionally dodged them cuz he couldnt beat them....He fought Margarito washed up, clottey coming off a loss to cotto and he ducked shane when he beat the crap out of Margarito...Floyd didnt fight Marg and Cotto but he didnt INTENTIONALLY duck them cuz they could beat him...they had no chance of beating him, Bob Arum just didnt LET him fight them so its different from Pacman BLATANTLY ducking guys cuz he's scared to lose...and EVERYONE Mayweather fought was formidable...his whole career was champions...he had a few bums in their, but he was so good, he didnt need bums...he fought tough guys and made them seem like trash..Ortiz, Mosley(coming off the margarito win), Undefeated Hatton,, Baldomir coming off a GREAT streak, Gotti was washed up, Zab coming off a loss, Genero..I mean I can go on for days...Manny is a hypejob in my opinion but thats a whole nother topic..and Manny DUCKED Marques for the 3rd fight cuz Marques was a counterpuncher(according to Pac's adviser)..Overall I think Pac's toughest foes were out of their prime at the time he fought them and all washed up coming off losses BUT...Pac's atg status comes from him climbing weight classes, NOT necessarily from fighting the best at their best!

 

:good

 

Pacquiao's has the greater resume at the lower weights aswell as at 140 and welter. 135 is really the only division Mayweather has over Pac, as Pac only fought one fight there before moving up to fight De La Hoya and fights at 140-147 nobody gave him a chance of winning at the time.

 

pacquiao and it's not even close.


clottey was beating the ****ing out of baldo before the DQ. Baldo has a bloody face and Clottey was ahead in all of judge score card before the ref ripped him and rule a DQ. Clottey was rob and loss a DQ.

So in short clottey beat the piece of **** baldo before mayweather UD him.